Panel to show certain mail like messenger conversations (aka Spike email / Delta Chat)
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Folks are moving away from mail to messaging apps because of convenience - no dealing with from/to/subjects or writing 'hello' and 'best regards'. Opera M2 already had the "Quick reply" option that has been requested here https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/54982/quick-reply
Delta Chat and Spike Email display emails like messengers do but use email as the protocol. It's really just another way to display email threads. I like the concept but certainly not for all my email - I think they take it too far by going all in on the messenger concept. (this sub 10 min video is a nice summary of spike mail)
But I think that Vivaldi with its panels could "just add"
a panel that uses the email infrastructure but displays messages sent from that panel like messengers do. Vivaldi is about giving choices right?
Some thoughts
- separate "chat mail" panel (with better name) for clear distinction of user interfaces and always having the choice to send an email the regular way or like a messenger chat item
- Chat mail panel would be separated in a contacts view left, sorted by last time of correspondence
- Possibility to add chat groups (using cc...)
- Add some "this is a chat email" info to the header to allow immediate filtering by any Vivaldi (or other) mail client
- Add a configurable default "Hi" and "Bye, name" that is added to such mails so they appear just like normal mails in other mail clients
- Hide these "Chat Mails" in the standard mail panel by default (triggered with a filter icon like for RSS, Spam, Trash)
- In combo with PGP, message ids, read receipts, push imap etc. that are implemented in Vivaldi Mail anyway, I think this different way of displaying mails is not too far off
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@WildEnte said in Panel to show certain mail like messenger conversations (aka Spike email / Delta Chat):
Folks are moving away from mail to messaging apps because of convenience - no dealing with from/to/subjects or writing 'hello' and 'best regards'.
Not anytime soon, you probably just chat with friends in a colloquial way but business still needs properly written emails. Good manners also are hopefully never going out of fashion.
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@iAN-CooG it always depends on who the recipient is. MS Teams, Slack, Mattermost, Sametime ... chat-like communication is rather normal these days in business settings, at least the industries I know. As I said above - I believe Spike is going too all in on the concept. As a separate panel in Vivaldi I think this can easily work.
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Maybe detect whether a mail is a conversation or more formal?
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@code3 don't think that is necessary, the other person doesn't know how I am looking at the email.
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@WildEnte No - I mean formal emails should probably not display in a conversation panel, especially if the panel is meant to resemble text messages
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@code3 I get that but wonder why I shouldn't be the one to choose how I want to display which mail. My computer programs should give me choices as to how I want to handle stuff but avoid trying to act intelligent, because they are usually not.
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@WildEnte You can chose! But personally, I would want formal emails as well as HTML mailing lists removed from my conversations panel, and I think Vivaldi is capable of doing that. It can separate short emails with replies from more formal/formatted emails. However, there should be an option to remove the auto detection and categorize emails yourself.
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@WildEnte Actually, maybe it would be better to pick out the chat emails myself. Vivaldi could do a chat panel without auto-detection, and then see if auto-detection would be good/worth it later.
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Delta Chat is open-source and written with web technologies, so Vivaldi could reuse the code.
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I think it should also work with pop3 accounts and mbox/maildir format.
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