Solved Auto mark email as read option
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Is four months long? This may seem minor, but it's a persistent and ongoing irritant that breaks from the default behaviour of all other mail clients I've used.
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@mattshepherd No, four months is not long. The built-in email client was announced as planned when the first Technical Preview was released in January 2015, and early versions even had a (non-functional) mail panel. It was only on June 9th 2021 that Beta email was included in the Stable release.
Four or five years is a long time to wait. Hopefully, we will see some key improvements to the email client by the end of this year.
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@mattshepherd It email development, it turns out four or five months is a blink of an eye. Email turns out to be more complex to develop than a browser.
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We will wait a bit more for this feature...
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@ayespy said in Click to "Mark as Read" automatically in any mail/feed:
M2 had the option.
Really? I don't think so, at least I don't seem to find that option in M2.
I still don't understand how this feature is supposed to work. Do people who want this option read their email in Received only? What is going to be the purpose of the Unread view? Will the unread view be hidden if the option is turned on, or will the feature only apply for viewing emails in Reeived? (You can't read an email in unread which automatically marks itself as read and then, by definition, vanishes from unread while you read it.)
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@wildente The option exists for POP3 accounts, not for IMAPI.
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@pesala OK but then this is a setting to resolve the issue that there is no client / server sync with POP3, and marking the message read "if already downloaded" tries to make pop kind of work a bit like IMAP. Essentially to limit the pain when working with more than one client on the same Pop account. Correct?
If so, then that is not what folks are asking for, they want the message to be marked read within one client upon click or after a custom period of time. This seems to be independent of the need to sync between clients
So it would really help to understand not just that the wish for that option exists, but how that feature is supposed to result in a benefit, and how the implementation might look like.
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Hello,
I think the idea we having, is, if you click in any new mail or feed (when click on it or when you move with the arrow key) is to mark that mail/feed as VIEWED AND READ (in a specific time or 0secons) when the action happens. Nothing more, nothing less. Currently, we have to press K key.
This is implemented in all mails clients that I know.
Currently, I only using one account in Vivaldi because this option for me is important. All other accounts are in eMClient.
Hope the Vivaldi team can work on this soon.
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@cjcr I got that.
What I am asking is how the workflow is supposed to look like with that option turned on:
@wildente said in Click to "Mark as Read" automatically in any mail/feed:
Do people who want this option read their email in Received only? What is going to be the purpose of the Unread view? Will the unread view be hidden if the option is turned on, or will the feature only apply for viewing emails in Reeived? (You can't read an email in unread which automatically marks itself as read and then, by definition, vanishes from unread while you read it.)
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Do people who want this option read their email in Received only?
Received mails and new feeds entries.What is going to be the purpose of the Unread view?
Will the unread view be hidden if the option is turned on, or will the feature only apply for viewing emails in Reeived? (You can't read an email in unread which automatically marks itself as read and then, by definition, vanishes from unread while you read it.)I don't see where's the unread view you said, but anyway, why not stay there and mark as VIEWED and READ and stay there that mails until the next visit to that section? In the next visit to Unread View, that section should be empty for the mails you already viewed. What do you think?
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PLEASE implement this. I can't believe I waited five years for vivaldi mail to come out and I still can't use it because it's determined to make me learn some weird other way of managing my mail instead of just letting me do what I want with it.
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ok since nobody who wants this feature feels responsible of explaining how the feature is actually going to work, let the opponent make the suggestion:
Make the feature work as "automatically mark message as read when unselecting it". This means that when you click a message, it stays unread and you can actually read it in Unread (where it would otherwise just disappear). There is no timer running in the background. When you decide you are done with the message, you can just click on the next message in the list or select another view or another tab - all of this unselects the message. The moment you do that, the message you viewed gets marked as read.
This would allow Vivaldi to continue working properly with an Unread view as the keystone of managing your workflow. The "automatically mark read" folks would need to live with the fact that while the message is still open in Vivaldi, it is also still unread in other clients.
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I thought the entire point of Vivaldi was to put the user first and allow features and customizations that other browsers don't have. Am I wrong? If it is then why not include an auto mark as read feature, and if you don't want it then don't use it? It seems simple enough. Why try to force everyone to not have the option for any feature?
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@n8chavez said in Click to "Mark as Read" automatically in any mail/feed:
It seems simple enough.
Appearances can be deceptive. The mail client we have at present took six years to develop. Further options and developments will come, but will take time. No one is being forced to accept anything. Mail as it exists at present is the best mail client developers have been able to produce so far. It will continue to get better and better, almost indefinitely. For now, many possible options will take a back seat to solving "basic" (but very difficult) problems, such as the handling of deletion of emails from GMail servers. Other options, which have been planned from the very beginning, will continue to appear.
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Yeah, this has already been asked for eight months prior to this thread
And in a more sensible manner than the whole 'time limit' thing (which is just odd). In the interim, if pressing 'k' proves to be too steep a hill to climb, can I suggest using one of the 300 email clients not in beta rather than pestering developers about something they're already aware of (and you would have been aware too, if you'd bothered to look)?
And just as a quick tip: Nothing is software development is simple. NOTHING.
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This feature request has found a couple of duplicates. I think this is the original.
In another thread (linked below) I suggested to solve the problem like this:
Make the feature work as "automatically mark message as read when unselecting it". This means that when you click a message, it stays unread and you can actually read it in Unread (where it would otherwise just disappear). There is no timer running in the background. When you decide you are done with the message, you can just click on the next message in the list or select another view or another tab - all of this unselects the message. The moment you do that, the message you viewed gets marked as read.
This would allow Vivaldi to continue working properly with an Unread view as the keystone of managing your workflow. The "automatically mark read" folks would need to live with the fact that while the message is still open in Vivaldi, it is also still unread in other clients.
cross-linking other threads on this topic:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/61285/click-to-mark-as-read-automatically-in-any-mail-feed/https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/54336/mark-read-automatically/
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I see how they do it but I agree there should at least be an option in the settings to enable this functionality.
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1st response to this forum!
agreed, option should be on USER's hand...
please let your user have an option at least -
@wildente I'm still using M2 and there is no such option but the functionality is different (better) than in M3. In Unread view selected email is marked as seen automatically but you need to mark as read manually. But in other views when selected, email is marked as seen and read automatically after a second.
I'm using hierarchical labels with filter rules so I don't use Unread view often.
Unfotunately, I can't use M3 without that two features.