Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview
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@jon Thank you. I really didn't know that. I thought the feature requests were first to be discussed on the forum in the dedicated section in order to make sure they're interesting enough for the community (avoid duplicates, number of upvotes, discussion, fine-tuning of original post, etc.) and that the second step was to have some of them listed/chosen by the team.
Aren't you afraid of an open-door to a kind of infinite letter to Santa-Claus?
(I'm not against the idea at all... just thinking of the side effects)And does it mean each Feature Request should be reported as bug in parallel?
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Wow! Thanks a lot! I still do not believe it is happening.
My only hope that it will not take another 5+ years while import from M2 is implemented
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All of this is amazing
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Many Many Thanks to the Vivaldi Team for coming up with this development.
As one still using M2 this is what I have been waiting for !
That is quite the post. I only skimmed it I was so anxious to get this up and running.
Have a couple of email accounts to set up but am having trouble with my Vivaldi Calendar. Hopefully a re-read will get me going.P.S.
With the added icons in the panel bar some have suggested to double its width.
I do not think that would be a good idea.
Instead, I'd rather see a scrollable Panel Bar (if at all possible).
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@Ornorm said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@jon Thank you. I really didn't know that. I thought the feature requests were first to be discussed on the forum in the dedicated section in order to make sure they're interesting enough for the community (avoid duplicates, number of upvotes, discussion, fine-tuning of original post, etc.) and that the second step was to have some of them listed/chosen by the team.
Aren't you afraid of an open-door to a kind of infinite letter to Santa-Claus? (I'm not against the idea at all... just thinking of the side effects)And does it mean each Feature Request should be reported as bug in parallel?
I guess you are probably right. It is good to discuss the features in the forums first. But when the features enter our system they are basically a kind of ticket. There can be a feature ticket and a bug ticket. They are one or the other, but they are in the same system.
CEO & Co-founder Vivaldi
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@greybeard said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
Many Many Thanks to the Vivaldi Team for coming up with this development.
As one still using M2 this is what I have been waiting for !
That is quite the post. I only skimmed it I was so anxious to get this up and running.
Have a couple of email accounts to set up but am having trouble with my Vivaldi Calendar. Hopefully a re-read will get me going.P.S.
With the added icons in the panel bar some have suggested to double its width.
I do not think that would be a good idea.
Instead, I'd rather see a scrollable Panel Bar (if at all possible).
Will Feature Request this.@greybeard , thank you for your kind words. I trust you will quickly find your way around M3. Make sure to let us know about any issues you find. It helps us resolve them quickly.
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@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
But when the features enter our system they are basically a kind of ticket
Yes, thanks for clarifying this.
I should leave the word to the team/moderators/community managers to give their advice on this.
My comment was just based on what I observe on a daily basis on the forum (yes, I'm addicted to Vivaldi... grrrr) and I was afraid of what could happen with the suggestion you made.
@Gaëlle @jane-n maybe something to discuss internally to give clear guidelines about the feature request process if relevant. -
@Ornorm said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@solidsnake I also saw this and thought it could be dangerous (but I'm maybe wrong) to have the feature requests reported as bugs.
The team could be rapidly overwhelmed and have difficult times for a good follow-up.Yes, I'm on a same page with you about this.
I also thought that feature request forums are closely monitored by someone from the Vivaldi stuff, and ones with the most upvotes are considered for implementing.
But again, maybe that's why my feature request submitted few years ago and in the top 5 by votes is not yet even in the process of implementation.
But now when Jon left this door open, I'll sneak some requests.
Hope will not get banned -
@greybeard Already requested here.
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@solidsnake (truly love your reaction)
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@solidsnake said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@Ornorm said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@solidsnake I also saw this and thought it could be dangerous (but I'm maybe wrong) to have the feature requests reported as bugs.
The team could be rapidly overwhelmed and have difficult times for a good follow-up.Yes, I'm on a same page with you about this.
I also thought that feature request forums are closely monitored by someone from the Vivaldi stuff, and ones with the most upvotes are considered for implementing.
But again, maybe that's why my feature request submitted few years ago and in the top 5 by votes is not yet even in the process of implementation.
But now when Jon left this door open, I'll sneak some requests.
Hope will not get banned@solidsnake , we do monitor this, to be frank, and things get reported into the system.
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okay, so I have few issues with RSS reader:
obviously current OPML import is just a WIP, right?
one of my feeds is called /dev/null and it was interpreted as nested structure for some reason (I can understand that, but strongly dislike it)
RSS reader should be it's own view, not the less loved child of Mail
middle-clicking on the article list doesn't work, what's even worse you can't even middle-click title on the reader pane
lack of favicons looks really off, but I assume it's also just WIP and that's why placeholder RSS icon is there?
it seems mouse back and forward buttons don't trigger actions performed by back and forward buttons on the weird toolbar that is clearly different from regular toolbar
reading pane treats article awfully too much like an e-mail, with all shenanigans like copy address on author fieldedit: oh, it looks like it silently failed to import all my sources? or maybe they weren't selected when I clicked select all?
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@jon said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
@solidsnake , we do monitor this, to be frank, and things get reported into the system.
@jon , that's great to hear.
But some feedback from the team would also be very nice to hear. I know there are a lot of threads, but I guess will be enough for the first page of the most popular requests, as sorted by upvotes.My other request about Regex support for 'find in page' is now a few years old
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@hlehyaric Many Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't find anything when I searched.
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@greybeard You're welcome.
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@zakius: there also seems to be some performance issue with rendering articles list, with no scientific method, just clicking and looking it seems to be rendering few times longer than on Waterfox 56 in my fork of Smart RSS (so it's JS and HTML running on old and slow engine compared to what I assume is ... probably JS and HTML but running on Blink and V8 so extremely fast)
note that Smart RSS in 56 already doesn't feel perfectly snappy, here it's on the verge of annoying, but I'd be happy to accept it if these 2 dealbreakers I mentioned (and browser-wide dealbreakers too, like lack of toolbar configuration or rocker configuration or middle click on tab bar to open new tab) are taken care of -
@zakius: the line between "I can't use it" and "it's virtually perfect" is really thin, but I believe it can be crossed
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Talking about mail, that I haven't tried yet and likely won't in the current state of things: is there any chance to get ActiveSync/Exchange going? Or OAuth Outlook and OAuth Gmail?(okay, found an answer to Gmail at least) and CalDAV/CardDAV? not priority for me as I gave up on desktop mail client long ago due to lack of ways to manage server sided setting like filters or (not) a spam flagging as there seems to be no standardized protocol for any of these (but maybe you can get that working for your own service at least?)
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@jon: you can and should provide IMAP version if anyone prefers that, would that work if someone decides to configure everything manually or as soon as there's @gmail.com you go OAuth way?
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@fifonik It will be along. When M3 was first in early development, it could import from M2. However, the database structure and indexing had to be substantially changed, and so that capability was lost at that time. It will be back.
