Here’s why Vivaldi is the best browser for working remotely


  • Vivaldi Team

    Like many around the globe, the entire Vivaldi team is currently working remotely. Here’s why the browser we make is the best browser for remote work (if we may say so ourselves)!

    Click here to see the full blog post


  • Moderator

    Currently, no browser offers a true built-in VPN. If a browser claims to have a VPN that works just for that browser, it is a good sign that this is not actually a VPN but an anonymizing secure web proxy and only anonymizes what happens in your browser.

    If a browser claims to have a VPN that only works in the browser, what makes it not a VPN? I know the idea of a VPN is to proxy the connection of the whole device, but limiting it to a single application doesn't change its definition...


  • Vivaldi Team

    @madiso: This should shed some light on the differences, take a look: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vpns-proxies-privacy/



  • @madiso: An actual VPN application and appliance eatablishes a secure tunnel to the VPN servers. VPN browser add-ons generally just forwards traffic to a proxy server and you'd want to pray that that proxy server is secured as well. Browser extensions doesn't have the ability to establish a secure tunnel on its own. Though VPN extensions are secure in its own right, it is what it is and you're still more vulnerable to sniffers compared to using an actual application.



  • cause it lacks basic features I assume?
    @VPN: if you need a VPN you need a systemwide one and no extension will do



  • Was Opera Unite as good as a VPN? Is peer-to-peer networking planned for Vivaldi?

    OT: If I may nit-pick on the grammar:

    most optimal solutions

    A solution is either optimal, or it is not. Superlatives do not need to be qualified with most, very, completely, etc.


  • Ambassador

    A VPN is undoubtedly the best way to keep privacy, apart from the common sense of the user.
    But without a doubt a VPN is necessary for the entire OS and it is also important to note that only very few free VPNs really protect privacy and all of them have limitations.
    The vast majority of them log our data and histories and traffic with them, that is, they do not directly serve. Others are private, but have a significant limitation on the volume of data and servers available, but can be used for occasional use.
    I only know 2 of these that can be used with security. Proton VPN, only 3 servers, but in exchange it has no data limit and is strongly encrypted, it does not carry logs and Windscribe, with 5 servers but a limit of 10Gb per month. Otherwise only a paid VPN is an alternative, for example Nord or Express VPN.
    Trace or CyDec are offered as extensions, which are anti-fingerprint applications that randomize all of them, CyDec also at the OS level through a small plugin.



  • @pesala: I do remember using Opera Unite back in the day. The Fridge and streaming your music library amount other things.



  • Chats working well in web panels is simply not true. As soon as you add a web panel, remove a webpanel, hide the panel, toggle the UI, etc., all web panels will reload and you will be logged out should there be any sign in necessary. Moreover web panels don't react to a cookie whitelist as ordinary tabs would, which means you have to log in each session. To top it all off you can't even automate a log in process over extensions like bitwarden, because these extensions only work on tabs.

    Overall I believe web panels need a serious reprogramming before they can become remotely useful. But I'm saying this since at least 3 years. At the moment it makes far more sense running everything as a tab, even if you lose the comfort of an overlaying sidebar.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    @luetage: I have no problems using chat in the web panels.
    If you remove a panel obviously it will reset.
    Hiding or toggling them works just fine once they have been activated.
    I regularly use the web chat for Trillian, Skype, Hangouts, FB, VK, Steam, ICQ, and they all work just fine.
    You will have to allow the pages the ability to show notifications if you expect them to be fully useful.



  • @chas4: the sync functionality was way ahead of its time. You could use it to sync an entire directory.



  • @Dr-Flay You are probably on Windows. And I'm talking about all panels reloading, not one panel resetting.



  • Well, if you start saying "VPN proxies a connection", you might research a little more, since VPN and proxy are 2 WAY DIFFERENT THINGS. VPN TUNNELS a connection, and a proxy, well, proxy a connection. Proxy is to access to webpages. VPN is to access to resources of a network that aren't necessarily webpages (like files, webtools, etc). The idea of a VPN in your browser is to have everything you need to work in your browser if you don't need to access to VPN resources from another apps. In my case, this is not usefull, since I use GitHub access ftp, etc. for a software developer environment. BUT, for example, my project manager can find this useful, because she mainly does everything from the browser and having all in one place is very usefull: you can do work stuff in one browser session, while the other apps you open have normal connection (no privacy concerns, no bandwidth throttling, no lag, etc).



  • Vivaldi is fantastic for many things, and supports remote working very well as the article states.

    But when it comes to WhatsApp working great in the panel... for the life of me I can't figure out how to force WhatsApp into mobile mode. Until the last update, regardless of whether I set the panel to mobile or desktop mode, only desktop mode showed (i.e. scrollbars in the panel - WhatsApp as pinned tab is better). After upgrading today, switching to mobile gives me "get whatsapp for android" that I can download and install now. So no, WhatsApp does not work well in the panel.

    Microsoft Teams also doesn't seem to work in the panel - it does very well as a normal tab, but as soon as I set it up in the panel, it says the browser version is not supported - in desktop mode it suggests to download the windows app, in mobile mode to download the mobile app.

    So no, Web panels do not work well for chat programs for me


  • Ambassador

    @brbergami , maybe this one, an Android emulator for Windows, can help you (I haven't tried it, it's just an idea), Droid4X is another extention for Chrome to emulate Android



  • @madiso said in Here’s why Vivaldi is the best browser for working remotely:

    I know the idea of a VPN is to proxy the connection of the whole device, but limiting it to a single application doesn't change its definition...

    Uhhh... Yes, that is by definition a change in definition!



  • @wildente said:

    But when it comes to WhatsApp working great in the panel... for the life of me I can't figure out how to force WhatsApp into mobile mode. Until the last update, regardless of whether I set the panel to mobile or desktop mode, only desktop mode showed (i.e. scrollbars in the panel - WhatsApp as pinned tab is better). After upgrading today, switching to mobile gives me "get whatsapp for android" that I can download and install now. So no, WhatsApp does not work well in the panel.

    So no, Web panels do not work well for chat programs for me

    Ditto myself, for WhatsApp. Skype We, on the other hand, works fairly well. But my main messaging driver is WhatsApp, so any help on this front would be great.



  • Update: MS Teams works with build 2.11.1811.47 on my work PC


  • Moderator

    @mossman That's like saying DoH is not a real DNS because it is supported by the browsers only (for now).

    The actual point was that the browser-based VPN could not proxy some specific requests, which can in turn result in data leaks:

    It may not capture DNS traffic [...]. It may not capture certificate revocation checks made by the system. This means that although it may hide the majority of the traffic, it might still allow little bits of information to get past the proxy [...].



  • if working remotely so nice with vivaldi, why some vpn extensions crash vivaldi?
    touchvpn, hola vpn - crash
    ninja, nord vpn - not crash
    os doesn't matter
    three latest snapshots are affected


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