Vivaldi browser and Flash Player applications after December 2020

Priest72

@Catweazle Thank you.
Just curious what facebook plans are considering most games on there are flash based.

I am still looking for viable HTML5 alternatives to the game genre i use,My current PC does not handle webgl very well as is quite old and thankfully puplinux saved it from the garbage bin.

Catweazle

@Priest72 , I don't think there will be any problems that you can play these games in web format (more than 1.000). By far there can be problems with large 3D games, but not because of the format, but because of the limitations on a very old PC.
I have a very basic mobile (without Flash) and all these games on this page work well for me, at least the ones I've tried.
If you look at the page URL and edit it, changing WebGL for Html5, also shows games in Html5.
https://www.crazygames.com/t/html5

Also there are pages with Unity Games, f.Ex.
https://poki.com/en/unity

RogerAndrew

@TbGbe said in Vivaldi browser and Flash Player applications after December 2020:

These statements contradict each other!! You should NOT be recommending old browsers if you are concerned about security.

What many people would find useful is a browser implementation with a version of Flash plug-in already added, and which will never try and update itself. Yes, the security risks are known, but for use only on sites with important Flash material that is not economic to convert.

Catweazle

@RogerAndrew, there are already few sites that use Flash (personally I haven't seen any for quite some time) and less and less, the few that remain are almost all of long-underserved websites (which increases the risk even more).
It would therefore not be a great loss if future versions of Vivaldi lack the ability to play Flash, as by the way almost all mobiles for years are no longer able to play this format. Html5 and WebGL rules.

eudoxetek

The only good solution we have found actually is to move from Flash to AIR with Adobe AIR SDK from HARMAN.
https://airsdk.harman.com

Catweazle

@eudoxetek , paying or with ads and limited use, well...

luetage

@adrianfernandez How would they be able to remove flash support from old versions that you might even have already installed? Answer: They can’t and won’t. But running old versions of a browser is not recommended. Furthermore beginning with the removal of Flash from the latest versions of all popular browser, websites will stop implementing it. I mean for the most part websites have already stopped doing this, for mobile browsers haven’t supported Flash in years.

I can only say this: stop using flash content now, it’s high time. The web is better off without it. Personally I haven’t had Flash on any of my systems for over 4 years and don’t miss it a bit.

Catweazle

The only way to continue using flash is to have SWF Player installed on the system in local use to view any old .swf files that you may have.
But the online use of flash is already obsolete and also not recommended at all

Pathduck

Or have a look at

BlueMaxima's Flashpoint:
https://bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/

Flash on the Internet Arcive:
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash
https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_flash_animation

strongbad_email.exe
https://archive.org/details/the-system-is-down

Catweazle

Flash has not been necessary for online games for a long time, practically all the pages have been converted to Html5, WebGL or Unity, although perhaps there is still some unattended page that has not done so, or also in Archive.org, but flash games that there are still, there are also on other pages with the mentioned formats.
The same thing happened with other applications, so flash is definitely as outdated as a Beta-Max tape.
Besides, as @ Gwen-Dragon says, having the flash player on the system, you can still use swf files

https://html5games.com
https://www.1001juegos.com/e/webgl
https://poki.com/en/unity
etc

Pathduck

It's important to understand the difference between the Flash Player browser plugin and the standalone Projector which allows you to run SWF files from your local machine.

It's not easy to find the Projector download, as it's hidden under the "Debug Downloads":
https://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html
Select "Download the Flash Player projector"

Digging out SWF files from web sites is not necessarily an easy task unless you know HTML, but most of the work has already been done by Flashpoint/Archive and other sites anyway.

As for Shockwave/Director content, these are much harder to play back locally, as they can't be played directly. Not sure if the Archive is able to emulate these yet, but I think Flashpoint have many of them working.