Vivaldi 2.10: No strings attached

Pesala

@rseiler Isn't Windows Defender also created by a third party?

iAN CooG

@Pesala It was back in 2004 or so. MS acquired 10+years ago another AV (Giant Antispyware) it was rewritten in C++ in-house and it's a totally different beast now from what it was back then. Can be considered a total MS product.

dag42

@kswiatly_har I almost gave up on Vivaldi, then happened across your mention of this flag to make it work with Symantec. Even if it's SEP's fault - it might be good to be proactive about this serious, fatal and silent error.

Catweazle

I remember that some time ago, Windows Defender had a problem similar to Symantec with Vivaldi, but this was quickly resolved by MS in a matter of a few days.

ukanuk

@dag42 I'd say the Vivaldi devs are being very proactive. I opened a bug report with them when this first started happening, and they've been responsive and asked for my help collecting additional debug logs to help figure out the issue with Symantec. The only thing I could maybe hope is if they added Norton / SEP as one of their test cases before future releases, since this is at least the second time it's happened. But even if they don't, I'm still satisfied with what Vivaldi devs have been doing. They can't possibly test every other software, and Norton/SEP should give SOME notification to their users when they block software like this. I think that's just about the most B.S. thing of all about this, that Norton silently blocks this without ever telling the user about it anywhere in their interface! They have a history section to see what it's blocked, and Vivaldi doesn't appear anywhere in those logs. Talk about not very user friendly.

XtremAlRaven

I have a problem with moving windows in a multi-monitor multi-window setup on MacOS Mojave: window disappears when I move it. Sometimes I can get it back by entering and exiting full screen and resizing (not moving) to a needed position, but sometimes it doesn't end up on the monitor I want it to no matter what I do. Needed to rollback, otherwise it's driving me crazy.

The last snapshot without this problem is 2.10.1745.1

XtremAlRaven

@gwen-dragon:

May be this issue is a bug.

I sure hope it's not an intended behaviour

XtremAlRaven

@gwen-dragon: :)) I see. Thanks!

benjo

@XtremAlRaven I have the same problem and am now stuck on 2.10.1745.1
The bug was already reported here.
And as I wrote, I think it's related to "[macOS] Window not restored to correct size when changing displays (VB-47547)".

ukanuk

@ukanuk @ivanrivas39c @dag42 @kswiatly_har @Fang @ShlomiYahbes If you were having issues with Symantec / Norton, I just heard from the Vivaldi team via VB-61479 that Symantec thinks they've fixed it for both SEP and Norton. I just got the latest updates with Norton LiveUpdate, and can confirm at least on my system that it seems to be working again without the workaround

mossman

@ukanuk said in Vivaldi 2.10: No strings attached:

I just got the latest updates with Norton LiveUpdate, and can confirm at least on my system that it seems to be working again without the workaround

Good news!

Okay, I will include "that corporate laptop" in the update round this time...

mossman

@mossman said in Vivaldi 2.10: No strings attached:

@ukanuk said in Vivaldi 2.10: No strings attached:

I just got the latest updates with Norton LiveUpdate, and can confirm at least on my system that it seems to be working again without the workaround

Good news!

Okay, I will include "that corporate laptop" in the update round this time...

Oh dear... still didn't work for me

I found that creating a shortcut with Windows 8 compatability option gets it to work, but it shows a thick outline in full-screen (3 or 4 pixels) so I will see if the command-line workaround fixes that.

(Edit: it does)

Another oddity running only this laptop - the icon in the task bar is blank for some reason (since a couple of months ago).