Option to disable pull to refresh
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Option to disable pull to refresh.
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Yep, agree that an option would be great - especially as there is a duplicated refresh button in the vivaldi overflow menu already.
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Has there been any progress on this? IMHO pull to refresh and the related swipe to go back are the worst browser features of the past decade, and a very frequent cause of accidentally lost data.
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I agree, this would be a great feature. It's quite difficult to manage large pages and slowing down my scrolling up so I don't end up refreshing the page inadvertently. Such a silly default that is forced on us all.
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@seventhseeker
Especially when you online shop.
You write your data and then recheck if everything is correct and accidentally refresh the page and you need to start all over again. So much time has passed and still haven't done anything. -
This is the biggest pain I have with Vivaldi Android right now, to the point that I'm thinking of switching back to Opera.
Especially because sometimes it even conflicts with the scrolling of certain websites, so it will trigger pull to refresh even when you're not at the top of the page.
Accidentally refreshing and either losing the form data or having to wait for a long loading time due to being on a slow network is infuriating. -
@qwertzguy
Opera has a lot of trackers
don't recommend it.
For those sites where it is critical to disable pull 2 refresh, it's better to use browsers that can do it "out of the box". IceRaven (a fork of FireFox). Cromite.
Kiwi + uBO + filter*###body:style(overscroll-behaviour-y: contain;)The code does not work on all sites!
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@far4 said in Option to disable pull to refresh:
@qwertzguy
Opera has a lot of trackers don't recommend it.But you can disable them during installation process, at least in the EU. Still, some quirks remain.
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@Leuchtturm812
Are you sure you mean android/Opera?I tried installing it now, but there is no way to customize the trackers there. There's 27 of them so far. You can customize news, telemetry of browser usage to Opera's site (? - if I understood correctly), AI, something else small. But trackers will leak information, I have no doubt about that. Opera requires at every startup (!) - to enable google services. It requires it not just in a notification, but in a special pop-up window. It is a very intrusive browser. Add to that the inability to add your own ad blocking lists and trackers, no flags (4 flags is so few!), not even the usual zoom, which is in all chromium-based browsers for a hundred years!
And a tasty one for dessert. In order to disable pull2refresh in Opera, we will need to access those 4 flags. This option is not available in the standard Settings. And by default, it's enabled.
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@far4 It's during the installation process that I'm asked "allow all", "allow selected " or "reject all". It must have something to do with GDPR, as I'm living in the EU. Maybe not present in your country then.
Still, I believe that Vivaldi also connects to Google services, if not for safe browsing?
The default adblocker in Opera works better for me than Vivaldi's, though. -
@Leuchtturm812 said in Option to disable pull to refresh:
Maybe not present in your country then.
Maybe. Here you have to sniff the traffic and watch, are the trackers really shutting down. You can't take these things on faith. But the mere presence of 27 trackers... Hm. When has facebook ever given up the pleasure of spying on a user?
Still, I believe that Vivaldi also connects to Google services, if not for safe browsing?
Maybe.
I don't know. Maybe in some situations. But Vivaldi doesn't require google services to be enabled (I haven't had any notifications to that effect).Note that in Opera, I can't turn off the intrusive pop-up box demanding I turn on google services. It appears every time I start Opera!
The default adblocker in Opera works better for me than Vivaldi's, though.
I don't think so! A blocker without customization will always be inferior to a blocker with many pluggable lists (if the engines are comparable in terms of performance - will consider them comparable: Opera doesn't have uBO either
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Exactly, I don't trust the company behind Opera not that much, anyway. But I don't think it's worse than either Chrome or Edge.
I don't mind connecting to Google services anyway, as I use them a lot. They're very decent for my use. But I don't want to be forced to use them either.
Good to know that Vivaldi is great, too. So we all can make reasonable choices for ourselves.
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@Leuchtturm812 said in Option to disable pull to refresh:
Exactly, I don't trust the company behind Opera not that much, anyway. But I don't think it's worse than either Chrome or Edge.
Firefox for android has this option btw. It also supports uBO and other extensions.
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Please for the sake of our sanity can we have this option already? I just lost a very technical full-paragraph form input 3 times because I need to reference other things on the page while I type a response. Scrolling back up to verify information keeps refreshing the page instead and I am about to cry. Or resort to drastic measures and go back to Firefox.
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@syntacticalcrab Welcome to Vivaldi Forum. Enjoy !
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@syntacticalcrab
For android/Vivaldi you can make a mod, I use exactly the mod. There is a ChromeXt project, github page is easy to google. Download the two files and follow the instructions, before that, if you want, create your signature for apk in bks format. Or sign with a build-in test key. This project makes it possible to build a primitive but working script manager into your browser. Next, use a script that blocks pull-to-refresh.So you have three choices:
continue to suffer (how many years has it been going on?),
switch to FF (Iceraven, Ironfox) or Cromite,
make a mod and continue using Vivaldi.(and Fantastic variant: after 5.5 years, Vivaldi devs will make a pull-to-refresh switch.
)Every time a new version comes out, 1) I disable some of the Vivaldi permissions - in order to improve privacy, 2) embed ChromeXt, 3) re-sign with my key and - after that - update the browser. Realistically it takes 5-7 minutes.
And solves problems with cosmetic ads block, blank bars after ads block, and with pure black background in night mode, I prefer dark gray, and with refresh gesture, and autowrap, autofill text on those pages where there is no mobile view and the text is too small... etc.
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Yeah just lost access to the ticket site for an event because the browser refreshed when I tried to scroll up. Really frustrating because I've never used that gesture intentionally ever.
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@markvdean
Yep. Try to make a mod?
