Emails for security and privacy
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@Catweazle said in Emails for security and privacy:
Everyone who visits this forum knows the email address of all users, since the address is [email protected] invariably for everyone.
That's a very, very good point. Did you ever try to propose it as an issue, to the support, or in the snapshot blog?
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@newscpq , I mentioned it some time ago, although I confess not to have insisted later, having few comments about it from other users and using Vivaldi mail anyway as mail secondary.
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@dtakaishi , I use Vivaldi mail mainly for information and news from Vivaldi, otherwise I use Proton mail and Tutanota, free of charge, as a particular I do not have a volume of mails that would justify using a paid service.
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In matters of privacy, I am guided by balance. Mail services like ProtonMail and Tutanota are too much for me. In addition, they do not allow IMAP/POP protocols, and I prefer desktop and mobile clients to webmail.
I love that Vivaldi's servers are in Iceland. I heard that there is quite strict legislation regarding the personal data of users.
However, after sending myself a test email from @vivaldi.net, I found that there was a lot of information about the server software in its headers, including version numbers and all filter chains.
In this regard, I have a question about the reliability of these servers. Of course, if the administrator is a professional, he can configure it so that no one could hack the server, even knowing exactly what software is installed on it. But I don't even know how often they update their software, how well it is configured, how much attention they pay to it.
Are there people on this forum who can say unequivocally that Vivaldi's servers are not only located in legislation that is comfortable for users' privacy, but that security issues are given the utmost attention?
I found this article: https://vivaldi.com/security/ but there it seems to be only about the browser.
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Both mail servers are hosted in Hafnarfjordur, Iceland.
No known exploits showing
https://www.shodan.io/host/31.209.137.13
https://www.shodan.io/host/31.209.137.14No problems obvious with the email config
https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=smtp%3Amxi-1.vivaldi.net&run=toolpage
https://mxtoolbox.com/domain/mxi-2.vivaldi.net/?source=findmonitorsNo obvious security issues though DANE is not configured
https://www.emailsecuritygrader.com/results?id=242331
https://ssl-tools.net/mailservers/vivaldi.net -
@Pesala Would you be so kind and point me to where Vivaldi tells us how they treat and handle our emails. Are they encrypted at rest or stored in plain text? Are they scanned? I have not been able to find it, I can only find it for the browser. Thanks
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@krv1 Did you have any luck finding this information?
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@alvk said in Emails for security and privacy:
@Dr-Flay said in Emails for security and privacy:
Don't MIME keys expire? I found it inconvenient for the purposes I want to use e2e encryption for.
Wow, banning ProtonMail in Russia is rough. I visit the county from time to time, so it is not a big deal, but a deal nontheless. Good to know, thanks.
Have you ever looked into Posteo? What I am attracted to is that they allow (similar to Tutanota and ProtonMail, I guess) to encrypt your entire mailbox. That's a nice feature to have, I thought.
@CATWEAZLE
Thank you for your input. Could you specify the problems you have with ProtonMail and Tutanota? What sites tend to reject them? -
@bycybex, I don't remember, in any case, it was an exception and pages that reject legal and well-known emails, because they protect privacy or only accept Mainstream mails, no are trustworthy and don't longer interest me. Same with sites which only give the options to create an account with Google and Facebook, without the option to create an account via mail.
Another good Mail service is Murena, not so well known only by it's other product NextCloud.
https://murena.com/cloud/
https://murena.com/about/(OpenSource)
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@krv1 said in Emails for security and privacy:
@Pesala Would you be so kind and point me to where Vivaldi tells us how they treat and handle our emails. Are they encrypted at rest or stored in plain text? Are they scanned? I have not been able to find it, I can only find it for the browser. Thanks
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