Setting to Empty Trash at a Specific Time

[skhilled]

I think it would be great to have a setting where you could have it automatically delete the trash, let's say, daily, weekly, monthly, etc. or also upon closing Vivaldi.

Thanks!

//MODEDIT: OP didn't clarify what they meant, therefore closing this as invalid feature request

[pafflick]

@skhilled Which trash? In bookmarks? Notes? Or did you mean the "trash" that contains closed tabs/windows?

[Pesala]

I am not in favour of this either. I think users need to make an active decision before permanently deleting anything.

Permanently Delete Bookmarks or Notes with Shift Delete would, IMO, be a better solution when users are quite sure that they wish to delete something, and not keep it in the deleted folder.

[pafflick]

This post is deleted!

[Para-Noid]

IMHO, this is not a good idea at all. The thought pattern behind the trash cans is to defeat accidental deletions. Besides how difficult is it to click "empty trash"?

[Catweazle]

The trash is very useful for recovering closed tabs, but I think it happened a few days, these do not matter as much, because of the fact it can be recovered in the same great history that Vivaldi has with his calendar.
Therefore having the option to empty the trash past x time would be a good idea.

[Pesala]

@kobi The option to clear it on exit is there already. Set the history to "Session only," and the browsing history will not be remembered. If you don't want to remember it even for this session that is another feature request that does not belong in this thread.

I am not sure what skhilled is requesting. If by "trash," the browsing history is meant, then the options requested are already available.

automatically delete the trash, let's say, daily, weekly, monthly, etc. or also upon closing Vivaldi.

If the request is to empty the trash in Notes and Bookmarks, then that's a new request, which is why I hesitate to tag this thread as done.

[Pesala]

Off-topic posts forked to Setting to Disable Closed Tabs History and Remove Trashcan

[Pesala]

Looking back at the comment made by shkill in this thread the request is clearly about clearing the list of closed tabs so that Vivaldi starts faster next time.

This feature request is already available in Settings, Privacy, Save Browsing History.

[Endor8]

@Pesala, Setting the Save Browsing History option to Session Only or One Day does not clear the closed tabs list.

Why is this marked as done? It's clearly not.
Let's recall the title of the current topic: "Setting to Empty Trash at a Specific Time". As acknowledged by @Pesala, by trash, @skhilled most probably meant only the Closed Tabs list, which is opened from the only trash icon that's always present in the browser's UI. If they meant something else, they should've specified.
Since there is currently no "Setting to Empty" that list "at a Specific Time", this issue is not "Done".

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This request is asking for a separate setting for the closed tabs (since the history setting is not tied to closed tabs), which could look like this

It wasn't so hard, was it?

Since saved closed tabs have saved my butt more than once, if I had this option I may even set it to One Day instead of Session Only (maybe a Two Sessions option would be ideal, but given how asking for things in this forum is a lost cause I'll refrain from that), but it'd be my choice, and by default the dropdown would be set to Forever as is the current behavior.

Currently, the only way to clear closed tabs is by manually pressing C after opening the list. There's not even an action that can be directly invoked from a command chain/keyboard shortcut to delete them. Even if there was, there's no way to run command chains on exit/daily (which would be an interesting feature, but it's not the point of this topic, so again, I'll refrain from asking that, in case a reply decides to call me out on unrelated nonsense instead of contributing to the conversation constructively).

And, correct me if I'm wrong, even if the trash bin for closed tabs is hidden by a theme (as has been suggested countless times as a workaround for this), it's still possible to bring the list of closed tabs up by triggering the action from quick commands, so there's not even a complete workaround to hide (again, hide ≠ delete) closed tabs.

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The only potentially unclear question when implementing this feature would be how to migrate old saved tabs after the update, if they aren't currently stored with an associated date, but the no brainer solution is simply giving them the current date after the update, so no unintended deletions can occur (and the new setting would default to Forever anyways).

This issue (and its various copies) have 5 years already, which is perfectly fine (what's not is that this browser is still closed source and refuses to accept external contributions, but again, that's not the point here), but what I don't understand is, how wasn't this done from the start? How can a browser that prides itself in its privacy and customization features decide that a feature that keeps track of your tab history should not be disableable/customizable in time scope?

It's plain cognitive dissonance.

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Finally, I hope you'll excuse my ranting, but while I understand that ambassadors are not moderators, could you please stop rationalizing ('how difficult is it to click "empty trash"', idk, how difficult is it to use curl instead of a web browser, mate?) and being short sighted ('users need to make an active decision before permanently deleting anything', precisely, I'd be making that decision when setting the option to Session Only). We're not asking to remove a feature, we're asking for control over its scope. Maybe in future updates we'll also lose the option to disable Calendar/Mail/Feed because it's a bad idea having it disabled. Reading this forum has been a painful experience thanks to your, I'd dare say even toxic, entitled behavior across multiple topics.

Chill down already, all of us have taken time off our lives to try and make our browser better, I don't understand so much rudeness and/or lack of understanding. Maybe the reason people frequently act rashly or impolitely to your comments is your own fault and not simple frustration around the topic.

You may say what you want, the reality is I've had the Save Browsing History setting set to Session Only since the day I installed this browser and closed tabs keep getting saved indefinitely against my will. I updated Vivaldi today to the latest version and the situation hasn't changed. In fact, I'm sending this reply from a tab opened from the closed tab list after reopening Vivaldi, which should not have been saved. This issue is not done.

[Pesala]

@Endor8 Instead of ranting and insulting me, try to understand that I tagged the topic as DONE way back in 2018 because:

I am not sure what skhilled is requesting. If by "trash," the browsing history is meant, then the options requested are already available.

@skhilled did not follow up to answer pafflick's question or mine.

@Pesala said in Setting to Empty Trash at a Specific Time:

Off-topic posts forked to Setting to Disable Closed Tabs History and Remove Trashcan

It that is what you want, then vote for and comment on that thread, which is still an open request.