What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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- Agree with you man, I think Vivaldi uses too much of my CPU. My laptop is hotter compared to other browsers (Chrome, Mozilla, Opera) when using Vivaldi.
- This is actually ain't true. dragging your mouse right/left may highlight the text, but you can drag the text by dragging up/down your mouse.
- Yeah I have this problem, but I use mod to hide it haha.
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@nearbaskara Sergio was talking about dragging the text into the tab bar to search for it in a new tab. Yes, you can select it, then drag it to the tab bar, but that does nothing.
I reported this as a bug:
(VB-21583) A dragged URL is not opened in a new tab when dropped on the tab bar
If it is not a URL, but just text, then it should perhaps be searched with the default search engine. I am happy with right-click, Search With for that, but if links could be dragged and dropped anywhere on the page to open them in a new tab, that would be useful.
Similar requests can be found in the Feature Requests thread, e.g.
@vivaldi-232 said in Feature requests for Vivaldi 1.14:
Drag selected texts & Drop to a new tab button to search for that text.
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@regnas said in Feature requests for Vivaldi 1.14:
Drag text to the tab bar area (or even on the same tab) to search
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I still use Opera 12.18 for its mail client,which is the one feature II find missing most in Vivaldi. However, many pages are not handled well any more by Opera, so Vivaldi is my main browser, although some internet radio stations on delicast.com wil play in Opera, but not in Vivaldi and vice versa. Chrome typically handeles everything well. Also, Vivaldi tends to be slow. It is clear that it just emulates our beloved old Opera. On top of this, I have a problem with Vivaldi stopping to download anything since about three weeks, which seems to be an issue caused mainly (but not completely) by my Avast antivirus software, though.
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One important thing why I prefer chrome over vivaldi:
When I press Ctrl+N it takes second-to-few-seconds to open new window (not tab)
It distracts a lot and breaks the concentration.Chrome opens new window momentarily on the contrast.
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@steffie
The distance from my home to my work place is around 20-25 miles.
I don't want to waste time, so I drive there every morning with my bike - around 90-100 minutes.
You see, I could take my car and be there in 30 minutes, but then I'd have to open to car door, go in, close the car door, fasten the seet belt, turn the key to start the motor... that's all much too long.
With the bike I just have to hop on it, and I drive immediately. So I save at least 15 seconds.
Much faster, right!
Right?
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@exaskryz said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:
Click-and-short-drag to open links
Try using right click (known as Mouse Gestures).
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@exaskryz said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:
It's difficult to try to right click and drag exactly to the right; if I at all arch my drag down, it won't open the link in a new tab. So it's taking multiple attempts to open a link, leading to frustrating.
You can configure the gesture to drag any direction: left, right, up or down (or even diagonals) in Tools/Settings/Mouse. For both new tab (foreground) and new tab (background)
The gesture is unreliable because I'm on a touchpad.
However, I admit that may/does change things.
It's my belief that a browser should work for the user, not that the user should work for the browser.
That is the credo of Vivaldi as well.
Perhaps you should add a reply to the feature request thread (check if drag to open and drag to search etc are already there first - however, there are a lot of posted requests already).
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/22411/feature-requests-for-vivaldi-1-14Note: One request per reply/post to allow voting
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Tabs are not high enough contrast to be able to differentiate them when they are not the active tab.
Would like to be able to type a website and hit tab to search within that site.
Search results while typing. Please make that an option.
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- Try different themes, or edit your own
- Add a custom Search Engine for that site
- Vote for Find in Page as you Type
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What is stopping you from using V all the time?
Tis such a weird obsolete question. Mods, surely this thread warrants closure by now?
Answer = nothing... ever since Feb 2015.
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@steffie said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:
Tis such a weird obsolete question.
There's obviously nothing stopping you or I from using Vivaldi as our default browser since we made that jump years ago. However, there are sure to be many new users who cannot adjust to make the leap from their previous browser.
It is going to be a valid question for some years yet.
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@pesala Yeah, i agree with you. I'm just a little grumpy coz i haven't gone & made my morning coffee yet
In seriousness though, some of the "justifications" some people offer for their anti-V stance are either trivial or even fatuous... sometimes it just gets to me & i push back a bit.Actually, i reckon you are an excellent example of pragmatism. Those of us here for a while are aware that you still use O12 daily for your email, but V for your actual browsing. If you were less pragmatic & more febrile [as i perceive many who whinge about V to be], you might instead have cut your nose off to spite your face, with some silly attitude that "if V cannot do every single thing i want, & do it perfectly, right now, then it's a crap browser & i ain't gonna use it". Yes i wrote that with histrionic hyperbole for effect, but that's an exaggerated version of the silly tone i sometimes perceive here from some of the posters.
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Customize v - to build, fit, or alter to individual specifications.
Vivaldi is a browser that is intentionally designed to allow users to greatly customize their browser interface to suit themselves. As a result, it especially attracts those individuals who may each have strong ideas about what they want to be able to customize, how, and under which conditions. If their particular customization favorites or ideas aren't present or don't rank high in priority with the thoughts of others, such users can get very expressive in their frustration. This is not nearly such a problem for plain-vanilla-interface browsers and the users who are happy with them, and would probably not be as common in Vivaldi's forums as it currently is, if such users had numerous other browser choices each offering the promise of significant customization as well. That, in turn, stands as a sorry testimony to the state of the browser marketplace and the one-size-fits-all mentality that has overtaken so many browser makers and users alike. Once again, thanks to Vivaldi for keeping the spirit of user customization alive and well...
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What stops me from using Vivaldi ALL the time? Poorer performance on videos than other browsers like Opera and Chrome, for me. (Windows 7, 32-bit)
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@steffie For many of us, there are specific things that V cannot do, and that's what this topic is about. In my case, there is one remaining showstopper on touch/pen systems and I therefore use firefox quantum on my surface. I'll switch to V immediately that gets fixed. So this topic is pretty much bug reporting by stealth, but it's bug reporting at the showstopper level - things that mean the user goes off and finds some other browser. Well worth knowing I think.
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@aach1 Hiya. Your point is well-made & [of course] valid, but possibly might not be central to the intent of this thread... or it might be totally central & i'm just missing the point.
The reason for my doubt over your example is coz it represents a case beyond a technology design asymptote [which is mathematically invalid so that's stupid of me] in that V is not yet targeted [???] at touch/pen systems, in the same way as it's not yet targeted at Android phones [hence i do not post complaints about why can't V be used on my phone?].
What i imagined that this thread aimed at [but again i concede i might be utterly wrong] was for that cohort of angry users we witness here fairly frequently who complain bitterly that another browser opens their 500 tabs the day before they launch it whereas V takes longer & hence V is crap so they refuse to use V but instead wanna come here & whine, if not actually troll.
I mean if a user is willing to reject V on some strange basis like that & then actively choose to go to another browser with demonstrably less features & functions, they were probably never V's target users anyway. Similarly in the 2015 period of V's genesis many snapshots [or whatever they were called back then, i forget now] were quite hideously unstable & spontaneously closed, or otherwise ex-parotted [beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Blue] at the drop of a hat. There was a time back then that it was a bit hard to keep loving V because of the instability. Though i acknowledge there's still individual users today posting about closures & tab failures, i suggest that for the great majority of users V is eminently stable & massively useful.
It was in that context that i suggested this topic might now be obsolete. Once again though i readily concede that my interpretation might be fallacious.
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I use it all the time since yesterday.
By the way, it doesn't support emojis. I need to open Notes, write it there, and only after I can copy-paste it to Vivaldi. -
@steffie understood. I hadn't realised that V wasn't targeted at touch/pen systems, partly because it works almost perfectly (now - no more total hangups). I'm typing this note in V on a Surface and if it weren't for the one remaining thing (to do with gmail labels) I'd be carrying on later to read my email in it also. Way back, I may have posted here something about the pen etc., and to your point I see that that probably was an unfair use of this thread. But right now, as far as I can see, V is so close to working perfectly on these systems that the remaining few things really do answer the description of the title.
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@steffie said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:
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I mean if a user is willing to reject V on some strange basis like that & then actively choose to go to another browser with demonstrably less features & functions, they were probably never V's target users anyway. Similarly in the 2015 period of V's genesis many snapshots ... were quite hideously unstable & spontaneously closed, or otherwise ex-parotted ... at the drop of a hat. There was a time back then that it was a bit hard to keep loving V because of the instability. Though i acknowledge there's still individual users today posting about closures & tab failures, i suggest that for the great majority of users V is eminently stable & massively useful.
...You've (perhaps unintentionally) explained a lot of the MyOpera forum turmoil exhibited in 2012-13 when Opera moved from Presto to Blink, and soon thereafter. That move, and a lot of the surrounding forum rancor, was really a surface manifestation of an underlying change in user targeting that had occurred within the company. When the Blink Opera versions first appeared (v15 and those soon following), there was extensive dismissal and mockery of the major user outcry that resulted from all the specific, major browser functionality and feature omissions, as well as a perceptible move away from "community".
While it was stated by Opera at the time that much of the "simplifying" was being done as a result of adopting Blink and as part of adding better-appealing interfacing for the mass-market crowd (and whatever was deemed typical of such users), it was not so apparent that what had really occurred was a strategic corporate retargeting of the browser away from the primary existing user class to a new and different one in hopes of increasing market share (and stockholder 'value'). As a result, those users on both sides who were involved in those forum debates often were talking past each other, because we failed to appreciate that the corporate browser target had actually and firmly been changed, regardless.
The retargeting of Opera away from its long-time primary user base left a void that has been acutely felt by users ever since... and one of the reasons some of them still run Opera 12 to this day. Vivaldi was conceived as "a browser for our friends"; and given that many users are familiar with Jon being a key founder of the original Opera, they understand what that phrase means in a way that perhaps not necessarily everyone else does... it's about the chosen targeting of the browser philosophy, design, and community. It's also why Vivaldi's real 'friends' are patient with the pace and with all the ups and downs of the development track as it unfolds. They know the end is, and will be, worth it.
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@blackbird said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:
Vivaldi's real 'friends' are patient with the pace and with all the ups and downs of the development track as it unfolds. They know the end is, and will be, worth it.
Bingo.
