What is stopping you from using V all the time?
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Remember a guy named Tamil?.
Tamil's Blog is available on the WayBack Machine in case anyone wants some tips on using Opera 12.17 or earlier.
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It's quite slow to load web sites. But then again Chrome is quite slow too, not to mention Firefox. My primary browser is still Opera classic 12.16, still the fastest!!
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TBH I have not used Vivaldi that much yet and I'm sure I will come up with a much larger list once I do, but a key reason for that is because of some showstoppers.
After being spoiled with Opera Classic and having to find an alternative once Opera no longer was practical to use, I have slowly acclimatized to adding dozens of extensions to Mozilla-based browsers to get back my "base functionality", and also add some things. (My current default is PaleMoon but I use a half-dozen browsers fairly regularly)
I have 2 extensions which have become "primary baseline functionality" on those platforms: NoScript, and Self-Destructing Cookies. Neither of these exist for Chrome/Chromium/Opera/Vivaldi.
And I have not been able to find anything remotely comparable to them, and I've tried quite a few of them. (It certainly doesn't help that Google manages the Chrome store like they manage Android Market/Google Play: it's basically a free-for-all, mostly managed by "robot", not humans, so there is tons of junk there and it is poorly organized, poorly documented.)
I don't hold any illusion that Vivaldi will build-in any of that functionality, but if I could find a decent and working extension, it would go a long way towards getting me to use it more often.
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#1 Apple Services not available. I constantly use my keyboard to use Services to add content/clippings/URLs/web archives to OminFocus, Devonthink Pro, etc. etc..
#2 If you have a lot of extensions installed, and your window is not big enough, Vivaldi just cuts off access to those extension…no "pop-down" button/caret like Firefox or Opera so you can see hidden extension to click on them.
3 - No ability to re-order the extension buttons as I can easily do in Chrome or (less easily) Firefox.
#4 - A really annoying bug (maybe a Chrome bug, since it also happens in Chrome) where Vivaldi simply stops seeing my typing keystrokes -- (yes, I've reported this). It does it with all extensions turned off, too. I have to quit and restart Vivaldi for it to allow me to type in it again. And yes, I can go from a non-responsive to keyboard Vivaldi and type in any other program or browser.
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you could:
1/ use uMatrix for the purpose of blocking scripts. uBlock Origin as an ad blocker. instead of NoScriptI use uBlock Origin on "medium mode" from the link you posted. This blocks third-party scripts and frames by default, protecting my privacy but limiting page damage, which is actually all I wanted noscript to do. If that's all you want too, uMatrix is overkill.
Gorhill, the author of both uBlock and uMatrix, recommended medium mode in a post on the wilders security forum awhile back, and I've been using it that way since. Very satisfied.
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you could:
1/ use uMatrix for the purpose of blocking scripts. uBlock Origin as an ad blocker. instead of NoScriptI use uBlock Origin on "medium mode" from the link you posted. This blocks third-party scripts and frames by default, protecting my privacy but limiting page damage, which is actually all I wanted noscript to do. If that's all you want too, uMatrix is overkill.
Gorhill, the author of both uBlock and uMatrix, recommended medium mode in a post on the wilders security forum awhile back, and I've been using it that way since. Very satisfied.
What's "medium mode" in uBlock Origin? I have the extension, and I don't see any medium mode.
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i'm loving Vivaldi so far. but for some small features i use everyday, it's still missing a few spots for me like:
Scroll to Top/Bottom option, I use right click + wheel up, but it would conflict with tab cycle. I'd hope for a possible option to customize that tab cycle gesture (or option to disable it).
Do check out FireGestures Extension on Firefox, which has the best customization imo.
Wheel Gestures for instance, lets you set a particular command for Scroll up with holding right-button. There is also an option to add custom User Scripts, for example: to activate LastPass auto fill login hotkey with a Gesture, like for alt+W:
FireGestures.sendKeyEvent({ alt: true, key: "W" });
this would work somewhat like Opera's Wand
which was something I missed alot. some other smaller issues:
[ul]- better support for Chrome extensions like LastPass.
- customizable interface elements, not sure if it'd be possible to move the buttons around like Opera used to/Firefox.
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- The UI feels sluggish. It seems that every click or every keyboard shortcut anywhere takes a little longer than it should. This is especially noticeable with Speed Dial. I am pretty certain this is related to the HTML-based UI, because neither Chrome nor the new Opera have this feel.
Vivaldi ist currently the slowest browser in existence. Even Mozilla in early alpha wasn't that bad.
I feel the same about sluggishness. It's not slow, but it's not instant, which makes it feel a bit sluggish and that's definitely not something I want from a program that I use the most on a computer.
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I have horrible interaction with youtube and vivaldi sometimes I click a video and it takes 10s+ for the actual screen to catch up, (nb: vivaldi @ 14% cpu usage, good graphics card unloaded system)
Oddly sometimes I even start hearing the video before I see it!
Os: Windows 10 64bit
CPU: Core i 6600K
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Speed. Just went to this page: https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/ and thought V had crashed. Turned out it just took 34s to load, and I couldn't scroll for most of that time. Compared to Chrome Version 49.0.2623.112 which took 15s and was 'responsive' to scrolling almost immediately. Looks like javascript is the culprit - see attached timing summaries.
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Speed. Just went to this page: https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/ and thought V had crashed. Turned out it just took 34s to load, and I couldn't scroll for most of that time. Compared to Chrome Version 49.0.2623.112 which took 15s and was 'responsive' to scrolling almost immediately. Looks like javascript is the culprit - see attached timing summaries.
No problems here. The page loads in 3/4 seconds for me.
Anyway why detail the chrome version are you using and no word on vivaldi's one?
Are you on the latest snapshot?
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I use uBlock Origin on "medium mode" from the link you posted. This blocks third-party scripts and frames by default, protecting my privacy but limiting page damage, which is actually all I wanted noscript to do. If that's all you want too, uMatrix is overkill.
Gorhill, the author of both uBlock and uMatrix, recommended medium mode in a post on the wilders security forum awhile back, and I've been using it that way since. Very satisfied.
What's "medium mode" in uBlock Origin? I have the extension, and I don't see any medium mode.
It's on this page, I didn't re-link it because the post I was responding to had it.
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Lack of Chrome sync. It's basically the only reason I use V as a secondary browser only.
More specifically lack of the ability to sync history and currently open tabs across multiple devices running V under different OS (windows, android and linux at the moment). Saved password sync (as I save a bunch of non-crucial ones) and installed addons/estension would be a great plus, but not essential.
Having them with my google account would be best by far as I don't care having yet another account for a service google already offers and works perfectly. The more I manage to keep with a single account the better. But I might be willing to make another one if I must.
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Chrome can preview as iPhone/Galaxy etc via developer tools. Vivladi can't
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1. Mainly the incompatible extensions like Hangouts
2. Higher CPU usage than default Chrome, f.e. when using Twitch with the Chrome Flash Plugin.
3. Weird Bookmarks behavior. "Other Bookmarks" category from Chrome is completely missing. Must go into Bookmarks Manager to delete them, can't drag and drop, Vivaldi Crashing sometimes when I try to delete Bookmarks.
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- Google centrism. I try to be Google free. I go into the settings here and am confronted with all kinds of Google settings. I know Google has a monopoly on good search, but understand not all people are slavishly accepting this, or Google. I am already a bit unhappy to know I am using a browser built on Google code (basically you didn't built a browser, you built a fork), but be a bit more independent.
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- Google centrism. I try to be Google free. I go into the settings here and am confronted with all kinds of Google settings. I know Google has a monopoly on good search, but understand not all people are slavishly accepting this, or Google. I am already a bit unhappy to know I am using a browser built on Google code (basically you didn't built a browser, you built a fork), but be a bit more independent.
If it's stopping anyone from using Vivaldi, they are wasting their time here. Go back to Firefox or whatever you used before. Vivaldi uses the Chrome/Blink rendering engine as that's the best choice that Jon had. It is not going to change. The Vivaldi browser is much more than its rendering engine, which is why we are all using it.
The default search engine can be changed to whatever you want, and you can add your own searches.
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Right now, the only time I switch from Vivaldi to Chrome or Firefox, is when a page doesn't work in Vivaldi.
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@SemillanZ:
I have 2 extensions which have become "primary baseline functionality" on those platforms: NoScript, and Self-Destructing Cookies. Neither of these exist for Chrome/Chromium/Opera/Vivaldi.
And I have not been able to find anything remotely comparable to them, and I've tried quite a few of them. […]
I don't hold any illusion that Vivaldi will build-in any of that functionality, but if I could find a decent and working extension, it would go a long way towards getting me to use it more often.
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you could:
1/ use uMatrix for the purpose of blocking scripts. uBlock Origin as an ad blocker. instead of NoScriptThanks for the suggestion.
I use gorhill's uBlock Origin on some of my Gecko/Goanna platforms. But when I first looked at uMatrix, it struck me as obtuse and convoluted to use. I may take another look at it at some point.
The native extension I settled on is ScriptSafe, but it's far from the usability of NoScript. And development was at a standstill for quite a while. BUT! The developer seems to have "returned to life" in the last few weeks and is making updates! Including one of my biggest show-stoppers: every time you 'approved' a script it was only for that specific hostname or subdomain, which made it extremely tedious. Now you can supposedly approve by 2nd-level domain right from the interactive UI, which would be a huge improvement.
It still likes to crash Vivaldi hard when I try to manually edit some of the whitelist entries tho. :blink:
Re: Tab Cookies, I tried that. But it's ancient (last update 2011), and doesn't replicate SDC. I need the ability to whitelist certain cookies, can't do that with that extension, it's "all or nothing". And there are also issues when you have a site open in multiple tabs, as I recall.
