Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial
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I think reload page button (+ F5 and ctrl+R) should be disabled by default on the Speed Dial page to avoid accidental dials updates.
I would prefer to have an option to update dials in the context menu.
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@stardust See Settings, Start Page, and disable "Show control buttons." To update from the context menu, select "Reload."
To change the size of a speed dial thumbnail, go to the page in a new tab, zoom in close to then update the thumbnail.
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@pesala said in Option to disable reload page button on the Speed Dial:
@stardust See Settings, Start Page, and disable "Show control buttons." To update from the context menu, select "Reload."
I've disabled control buttons but reload page button still reloads all dials.
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@stardust I see. It's a rather unusual requirement to reload all speed dials. F5 would do it, but that might also be pressed by mistake.
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@pesala said in Option to disable reload page button on the Speed Dial:
@stardust I see. It's a rather unusual requirement to reload all speed dials. F5 would do it, but that might also be pressed by mistake.
Yeah. I have updated the 1 post.
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@Stardust said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
I think reload page button (+ F5 and ctrl+R) should be disabled by default on the Speed Dial page to avoid accidental dials updates.
This would be very useful. If your internet connection is slow and you accidentally type ctrl+R instead of shift+R you might just as well make a fresh install of Vivaldi. Might be quicker than reloading 30 or more pages. Reloading all speed dial icons is a useless and annoying feature in my opinion.
It would make far more sense to have the option to refresh an icon every time you click it (using the page that is loaded anyway). -
@Stardust said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
I think reload page button (+ F5 and ctrl+R) should be disabled by default on the Speed Dial page to avoid accidental dials updates.
I would prefer to have an option to update dials in the context menu.
The F5 shortcut is already disabled by default. The topic needs to be renamed to request an option to update all speed dials in the context menu.
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This feature request is already implemented.
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@Pesala How do I enable to the option to "Disable the Reload Button on Speed Dial". Because I'm using the latest version of Vivaldi, I'm on Speed Dial, I press F5 and it refreshes. How do I stop this from happening?
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@ayanamiruri You can’t and this is neither done nor implemented. All methods to reload the start page will trigger a reload and refresh the speed dial thumbnails. I wouldn’t bother with custom thumbnails in any case, however. They don’t sync and you lose them easily. Moreover there’s always the possibility the dimensions of the thumbnails will change again… A little eye candy isn’t worth all the effort. A lesson I learned the hard way. In my opinion the best way to set it up is making the thumbnails »tiny« and showing both the favicon and title below each speed dial. This way the thumbnails take only a secondary role and won’t influence the design of your start page too much.
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@luetage said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
You can’t and this is neither done nor implemented.
Not sure why this thread marked as
done
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@Stardust Probably because F5 and the Reload button no longer reload the thumbnails from their URL.
To reload a thumbnail, I have to right-click on a speed dial thumb, and select reload.
The avoid accidents, in Settings, Start Page, disable:
Show Thumbnail Control Buttons -
@Pesala said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
@Stardust Probably because F5 and the Reload button no longer reload the thumbnails from their URL.
F5 and the Reload button reload thumbnails just fine for me.
Vivaldi 5.3.2679.3 (Official Build) snapshot (64-bit)The avoid accidents, in Settings, Start Page, disable:
Show Thumbnail Control ButtonsI have it disabled forever.
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@Pesala I'm the same as the other other poster. I disable that setting (the Show Thumbnail Control Buttons), and I can still press F5 to refresh/upload all of the thumbnails.
I've never bothered with trying to restore the initial icons of the websites, simply because accidentally pressing the F5 buttons would destroy any hard work. Especially since I completely despise how the original icons and start displaying the website when you press F5. But that is a completely different issue.
At any rate, I can press the F5 button and actually see the thumbnails for the all of the speed dials items get replaced. And since I've got news/blog sites listed, it is rather obvious the thumbnail is updated. (Edit - One other detail, I can have the thumbnail control turned off. Press F5 on the speed dial. Turn the Thumbnail control back on, and the Speed Dial is showing off that the reload is in process. It has the arrows going in a circle to show it is reloading/updating the thumbnail.)
And I did check for updates and the browser specifically told me that it is in fact up to date. There is no new updates to install. Just in case this helps, info from About Vivaldi:
Vivaldi 5.2.2623.48 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision 80d94afbd301a973f33b94e8c76a22a33ed078c7
OS Windows 10 Version 21H1 (Build 19043.1706)
JavaScript V8 10.0.139.17
User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/100.0.4896.162 Safari/537.36
Command Line "C:\Users\Folder-Name\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe" --flag-switches-begin --flag-switches-end --save-page-as-mhtml
Executable Path C:\Users\Folder-Name\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe
Profile Path C:\Users\Folder-Name\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Default
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- I bookmarked this page, adding it to speed dial
- I selected a custom thumbnail
- I reloaded the page with F5
Nothing happened.
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@Pesala Add a custom thumbnail picture from a file and then try again.
edit: Ok, I tried to get to the root of this from a fresh profile. All speed dials are indeed protected from a new profile. This has nothing to do whatsoever with the »show thumbnail control buttons« setting as far as I could tell. But here comes the catch: When we manually reload some thumbnails (e.g. right‐click context menu entry reload) and then click
F5
afterwards, all thumbnails which have been reloaded manually will reload again. This means if you have a profile where you reloaded thumbnails in the past, these will not be protected anymore. I used an extension to load custom thumbnails, therefore all my speed dials have been reloaded before, therefore each and everyone will reload when pressingF5
. Custom thumbnails from file would still be protected, however, but I stopped using this option.We can conclude this request has been fulfilled, but it could be argued the behavior is still somewhat unexpected. Not sure whether it’s a bug or on purpose.
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@luetage said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
All speed dials are indeed protected from a new profile. This has nothing to do whatsoever with the »show thumbnail control buttons« setting as far as I could tell. But here comes the catch: When we manually reload some thumbnails (e.g. right‐click context menu entry reload) and then click F5 afterwards, all thumbnails which have been reloaded manually will reload again.
I see, if this is the case, then this seems more like a bug or an incomplete feature request? Or an unexpected edge case?
Sigh, this is going to be a lot of work, just to setup a new profile and get this fix into place.
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@luetage said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
This has nothing to do whatsoever with the »show thumbnail control buttons« setting as far as I could tell.
Yes, it's not related.
But here comes the catch: When we manually reload some thumbnails (e.g. right‐click context menu entry reload) and then click F5 afterwards, all thumbnails which have been reloaded manually will reload again. This means if you have a profile where you reloaded thumbnails in the past, these will not be protected anymore. I used an extension to load custom thumbnails, therefore all my speed dials have been reloaded before, therefore each and everyone will reload when pressing F5. Custom thumbnails from file would still be protected, however, but I stopped using this option.
We can conclude this request has been fulfilled, but it could be argued the behavior is still somewhat unexpected. Not sure whether it’s a bug or on purpose.
I don't see a logic here at all. Users often reload their thumbnails e.g. because the look of the site could changed.
And unintentional thumbnails updates is still a problem.
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@Stardust said in Option to Disable Reload Button on Speed Dial:
Reload button and F5 should be disabled by default imo.
You can accidentally reload a page while replying to a message on these forums. What is the point of a reload button at all? Why not remove it by default?
People need to take some responsibility for their own actions. Vivaldi have done what is logical here — do not reload speed dials that use a custom thumbnail.
If a user has speed dials that have been manually reloaded from their source URL then why shouldn't F5 or reload page refresh all of those manually reloaded speed dials? After all, there is a button or context menu item to reload just one if that is what a user wants.
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@Pesala There is no logic behind reload keyboard shortcuts, mouse gestures, quick commands, whatever, working on the start page. The start page doesn’t reload, only the thumbnails do. This is an action we need seldom or never, therefore reloading all speed dials should be a special menu option/command alone. I agree with Stardust that keeping all these options to reload the complete collection of thumbnails around is senseless. There is no point to it.