Website Notifications Off by Default
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I can think why Chromium dev thought this was a good idea. It reminds when popups first appeared and now every browser blocks popup by default.
I can't stand this anymore. Every news site you visit now triggers a notification asking you for permissions. This is very annoying. Please Vivaldi devs, implement a feature in the settings so we can by default deny ALL notifications from websites. I don't want sites pestering me anymore.
In the forums, someone suggested a setting in the Chromium settings for this, but it does not work.
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It works for me - chrome://settings/content/notifications
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@longvoid The OP is requesting a change to the defaults.
I suspect that there is a good reason why the current default was chosen/not changed.
Those who don't wish to see notifications can easily disable them.
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@pesala He is requesting "we can by default deny ALL notifications" and we can do it there chrome://settings/content/notifications
I agree, it should be in Vivaldi settings.
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“By default” means that users would not need to disable them as they would be off already. I disagree with the request, but that's what it is.
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"implement a feature in the settings so we can by default deny ALL notifications from websites" means that we can enable option in the settings and disable notifications for all websites.
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@longvoid OK, I see what you mean now.
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By default I mean for all websites not for every new Vivaldi installation. I don't mind if the option is to show the notification by default for most users, as long as we can turn this off on the settings (and let us maybe make exceptions for some).
The Chrome settings did not work for me in the past. I will try again. I don't think most people will use those hidden settings. This should be an option in the Privacy setting sections so its visible for all users.
Personally, I think privacy should by default Opt-In and not Opt-Out. I can understand that sites ask by default for permissions, but I don't believe this is how the web should work. Users should not be clicking Accept or Deny by default on every site they visit or even receive a notification. They should enable it in manually for places they want.
Can someone imagine how annoying this would be if every single new site you enter asks the same? I suspect in the future; other browsers will deny requests by default or at least not make them so that they pop up right on your screen. Maybe in URL bar transparently like blocked popups.
All I want is stop the notification from showing right on the page. It is intrusive.
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@ladyjane said in Website Notifications Off by Default:
Annoyances
I use uBlock Origin. I will check that, thanks.
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That option should certainly be made available in the privacy settings menu, not hidden as it is now.
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@pesala said in Website Notifications Off by Default:
“By default” means that users
By default means Vivaldi asks if you allow the website sends Desktop Notification.
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@ladyjane said in Website Notifications Off by Default:
I haven't checked it: the annoyances filters may just be for the cookie notifications on most websites that you have to click on to get them to dismiss. If the filters won't do this, then I apologise.
It's possible to block all the Desktop Notification on:
vivaldi://settings/content/notifications
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Also please note, there is a bug in above settings link.
When you enterchrome://settings/content/notifications
it opens proper notifications settings, but set address bar (redirect like?) tovivaldi://settings/content/notifications
When you enter:
vivaldi://settings/content/notifications
, it opens settings in tab, set address bar tovivaldi://settings/content/notifications/
(note slash at end) and do NOT go to notification options. -
@sylwesterz The fact that internal "chrome" addresses spoof a "vivaldi" location, and that entering the "vivaldi" address does not reach the relevant internal Chromium page is a very well known and much-discussed issue. It resolves gradually as the Vivaldi team are able, one page at a time, to replace the "chrome" internal pages with real "vivaldi" ones.
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Thanks, maybe it could be better to not spoof/redirect when resulting link do not work at all? Now it looks like a bug...
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@sylwesterz It could be considered a bug - but at the moment it's by design. Every time you enter a "chrome" address the result shows as "vivaldi" because this is not the Chrome/Chromium browser - it is the Vivaldi browser. The replacement of internal pages (there are over two hundred of them) is, necessarily, gradual and a work in progress.
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@longvoid said in Website Notifications Off by Default:
It works for me - chrome://settings/content/notifications
Thanks a lot for this way out. I was amazed the standard settings lacked the option to disable these annoying notifications. I never use them. I don't know what they are for. I either go to the website I want directly or use RSS feeds.
It was like asking me all the time "Do you want a popup or not? Well, I will show you one anyway"
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There’s currently another arms race in progress, between bad-faith website developers and browser developers: since the inevitable notification abuses started, browsers began remembering the users’ Deny selection, and stopped bothering them; websites now repeatedly pop-up simulated “Allow notifications for this website?” messages, to avoid this ban.
It’s a fun exercise to detect when the pop-ups are simulated or real; when I have the time, I like to [allow] the fake prompt then [deny] Vivaldi’s real one, which brings the ban.
The Block list (atchrome://settings/content/notifications
) is getting pretty long, tho…