Keep multiple backups of sessions / bookmarks / notes / ...
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@rotfl I definitely agree. Vivaldi needs a Pro session saving. Manage, save, autodelete after a preferred time, autosave after xx minutes/hours.
Save in case of crash. Automatically save the actual session before close.
Also renaming and arrange the saved sessions like it was packed folders, to recall in any time (maybe by storing it in bookmarks section). -
Use Export Bookmarks from time to time.
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Folks, reading this post from @paul1149 there's a cool addon that can be used for purpose. I'll give a try as seems working fine.
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@ladyjane hey, sorry for late reply. This addon is a light session manager. Though it's not a full feature session restore addon. There's already many request to implement this feature on Vivaldi but, in the meanwhile, could be a good substitute.
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I found this old thread and agree with the topic. However, I think the responses are irresponsible.
I lost all of my bookmarks today. Both the bookmarks file and the bookmarks.bak file. Yes ... I know how to go into the profile and copy the bak file to overwrite the bookmark file to recover it. This is useless when both are lost. BTW, there is something in the file but Vivaldi can't read it.
The answers of "backup periodically" or "use this cool extension" are irresponsible by any developer who wants a quality product.
Vivaldi crashes constantly. I mean like every few hours. Tabs crash even more.
Most of the time I can bring it back with no problems. What irks me is I closed Vivaldi normally and lost all my bookmarks. Obviously, this one bookmark backup written on closure is a really bad idea. This idea is awful. The system needs to be more robust.The "cool addon" mentioned in the post only backs-up by syncing with a Google account. Hello ... if I wanted anything to do with Google I would use Chrome not Vivaldi.
So how about a timed backup to a location of the users choice with the default in the profile folder. Keep the last 10 backups. Firefox has a system like this and it works really well. One backup is just not safe. Asking the user to "periodically backup" really means "keep interrupting your workflow and backup" which really means "keep interrupting your workflow and open your file manager, surf to the Vivaldi profile and manually copy your bookmarks etc to your backup location. Oh, and do this every hour or so." That's not a practical backup scheme.
Now to the built-in recovery system. It is absolutely useless. If I try to import from an HTML file when I navigate to my backup folder it can't see the HTML file. Fat lotta good that does.
So you tell me to keep interrupting your workflow to backup multiple times a day but then I can't recover the data unless I manually backup the files. Does anyone but me see the stupidity of this scheme?
So to summarize:
- Multiple automatic backups of critical data (bookmarks, login data, notes).
- A recovery system that actually works. It should also be easy and convenient for the non power-user.
I lost a lot of data because of the current haphazard system. Please fix this or Vivaldi will not be worth using.
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Threads merged.
@exomancer said
If I try to import from an HTML file when I navigate to my backup folder it can't see the HTML file. Fat lotta good that does.
Using Windows, this is what I see after selecting HTML on the Import Bookmarks and Settings dialogue.
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@pesala
I see nothing in that window. I checked and the html file was there but the import dialog was completely empty and it was set to '.html' files. Therefore I could not import the html backup. -
@exomancer Where did you save your bookmarks when you last exported them?
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Where did you save your bookmarks when you last exported them?
In a directory where I save backup info.
I use Ubuntu:
~/Backups/Vivaldi
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@Exomancer said in Keep multiple backups of sessions / bookmarks / notes / ...:
I found this old thread and agree with the topic. However, I think the responses are irresponsible.
I have to agree. After Vivaldi recently discarding my entire session information, I was downright shocked there is no backup or option to restore anything available. I lost a ton of information/state. I'll be spending my Friday dredging my history to see what I can recognize as a lost tab just to get a portion of my state back.
This is a very serious shortfall, easily fixed, and it should absolutely be handled directly in the browser like a responsible application, not put on the user to have to manually protect themselves from the browser's lackadaisical concern for our data and time.
Especially since the session saving feature is so painfully rudimentary. It's annoying to have to use that mess for anything, let alone regularly.
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@TyrianMollusk said in Keep multiple backups of sessions / bookmarks / notes / ...:
I found this old thread and agree with the topic. However, I think the responses are irresponsible.
I have to agree
Since the requested feature does not currently exist, the only thing we can do is offer possible workarounds to protect data.
I lost all of my bookmarks and settings recently while testing a bug reported by a user. I recovered most if it easily using sync. The settings I had to fix manually. Such problems can be expected to happen in Beta software, and even in so-called Stable software sometimes.
If users do know about the issues, as the OP does, then the onus is on them to backup their data. Even if they are unaware of such issues they should backup their data, as computers get stolen, hard drives fail, etc.
It is not irresponsible to warn users to make backups.
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