Save Opened files in Temporary Folder

[DoctorG]

@slydog3333 Is this software which can be used a commercial one? I can not find any license hints on web page.

[JSeb]

I want this behavior to be address. It have to and should already been done. Every files we hope to open should be directed to Vivaldi's temporary folder. At least, an option should allow it in Vivaldi's settings. It renders my download folder cumbersome and it's my worst disappointment about Vivaldi. I don't understand why it hasn't been corrected because it must annoy many users... I believe.
Is it that hard to do? It doesn't look that complicated : saving files that are opened instead of saved to %temp%\vivaldi and the saved ones to where they should. Even if it came from Chromium, why stick with it? Can Vivaldi's devs explain it, please.

[astro46]

@jseb
I hope that your comment gets a useful response, and better, a fix.

However, more likely this issue, as well a few other vivaldi features, started but not really developed are in the category "the person who wanted to do it, left, and no one else cares that much". The devs clearly have had time to work on other features, which get added with each new edition. Perhaps if "opened files" could be combined with shiny new colors they would be interested.

[JSeb]

@astro46 You make me worry about future Vivaldi's development... I hope it won't slows down. I like it, but browsers are such a important part in computers usage that it's one of my top priority for security and efficiency. So if Vivaldi ends up beaten, I will switch to better solution as I've done with my long loved Firefox when it begun having more compatibility issues with many websites.

[ukanuk]

@jseb @astro46 You can read my workaround earlier in this thread at https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/253345. That way any files you click "Open" on will be saved in %temp%/Vivaldi, and if you actually care to save a file you can use Save As and pick your Downloads directory or something else.

It's a workaround and it's annoying the setting isn't synced and you can't actually use %temp% in the directory name, but once you set it, it stays good for that install.

It does get more annoying as the years march on though and we see other features come out that seem pointless to you and me personally. I totally empathize with that. I know Vivaldi devs aren't slowing development anytime soon, it's just their priorities often don't align directly with forum priorities. They are providing a free product and have to still fund it somehow (mostly through search engine deals I believe), so I try not to complain too much.

[JSeb]

@ukanuk Yes, I'm using this workaround. But as you, I think it's a workaround, not what Vivaldi should do with a basic limitation like this one. It isn't stand their level of software to me.
Have a nice day!

[lord-chaos]

Yes please : ) Have been waiting for years for this.

[lockrol]

I was just wondering, why there is an 'open' option at all

Either make it 'open only'(should not download) or remove the option entirely
Don't make it confusing, you have no idea all the horrors it can do to you

[astro46]

@lockrol It's nice that people keep bringing up the inadequacies of the half-baked pdf function in vivaldi. It should be apparent by now that vivaldi has no intention of fixing it, similar to the half-baked saved sessions function, or the half-baked sync function. they are on to more important things like colors, and starting other functions, to have a longer list of (half-baked) functions.

It is great that they are creating a free browser with some good features, but it also indicates a lack of respect for current users to not fix problems in existing functions.

[Ayespy]

@lockrol It is physically impossible to "open" a file without downloading it and storing it to the hard drive. IE and Firefox have always hidden that this is the case, but it results in a stored file in your "Temp" directory that you don't see, and so you think it wasn't downloaded. It was. It was also stored.

What you are objecting to is a function hard-coded into Chromium to download that file to a visible location rather than the invisible and incomprehensibly-coded "Temp" directory.

I don't know what the dev team is going to to ultimately, whether they are going to re-code/patch this basic function of Chromium to operate differently so that users can hide their auto-opened downloads from themselves, but the very concept that one can open a file without downloading is simply a lie.

[astro46]

@Ayespy I rarely use firefox any more, and hadn't used IE for, uh, can't remember when.

I don't think anyone is concerned, technically, with whether a pdf has been downloaded. It is about having to download to non temp folder, and then having to deal with the downloaded pdf again later. this doesn't happen in all cases. some just appear when pdf link is clicked on . some have to download to a chosen folder, and then opened.

if the files needing "download' went to a temp file and auto opened, and skip the download window this would solve the issue, and the 'downloaded' pdf would go the way of all the other temp files, not requiring special handling. also, the download window shouldn't have an 'open' choice that was really no different than the 'save' choice. it is misleading and frustrating, as observed by another user. 'Open' ought to do just that, download to temp file and then open the pdf. No more user/pdf interaction needed.

Try to understand the import of comments and what is desired regarding operation, and don't get hung up on technicalities. It is not helpful.

[Pesala]

@astro46 If it bothers you that much, associate PDF files with Vivaldi. They will then be downloaded to a temporary folder, and opened in a Tab using the PDF Plugin.

[Ayespy]

@astro46 When I press "open" it's because I want the file to open on download without my having to find it and open it. That works. It is not useless.

I am not crazy about having to clean up downloaded files, but Chromium forces this on us (as with Chromium and all browsers based in it such as Chrome and the new Edge) and it's not trivial to re-factor the Chromium structure to prevent it.

I just wanted to be clear that there's no such thing as "open without download" which millions of users literally believe to be the case.

I get the the "wish I didn't have to clean up my download directory of opened-files" thing. Every Chromium-based browser user has the same wish.

[Thot]

@Ayespy What if you download files from within the Private Window, if you don’t want to leave them stay in the Download Panel and don’t want to delete them seperately? That means: If you close the Private Window the dowloaded files are gone.

[astro46]

@Ayespy I can't find an example at the moment, but remember dealing with pdf statements that when I clicked 'open' , were downloaded and I then had to go to the 'download' folder to click them again to open in pdf viewer.
again, not all pdf links produce this behavior, some will open directly in the vivaldi pdf viewer, without going through the save/open window.

[Pesala]

In .htaccess should be a line for PDF files:

AddType application/pdf .pdf

[astro46]

@Ayespy What if you download files from within the Private Window, if you don’t want to leave them stay in the Download Panel and don’t want to delete them seperately? That means: If you close the Private Window the dowloaded files are gone.

I have never used the private window.

after looking for it a bit, I see that it is possible to right click on a pdf link and ask for it to be opened in private window. Hopefully I will remember to try that when the situation arises again. Thanks for the tip.

[Thot]

@astro46 Yes—most PDF’s are downloaded into the PDF-Reader when clicking on a Link to a PDF. Some are forced somehow to be downloaded to the harddrive (Downloadsfolder), but Vivaldi will ask if you want to download the file.

[Ayespy]

@Thot I'm not clear that that would work.

Private windows delete cookies, history and cache on close. A downoaded/opened file would not be in any of these locations. Again, the file is not in the browser or the browser window. It is on the hard drive - and even if you are seeing it in the built-in PDF viewer, you are still viewing a file that has already been stored on the hard drive.

[Ayespy]

@Thot Nothing, ever, is downloaded into the PDF-Reader. This is not a location or a form of storage. It's an app. The PDF is downloaded to the hard drive and viewed either through the browser's built-in PDF viewer or some other viewer, depending on website and document coding, and your browser settings.