Native Themes to Match the OS Design

Nekomajin

Colorful themes are good, but users should be able to select a theme, which fits perfectly into the OS design on every supported system. This must include not only colors, but gradients, transparency, rounded corners and shadows too. And it must contain not only the toolbars and buttons, but scrollbars and menus as well.

Artex

Fluent design on Vivaldi that would be pretty cool

thanujbalamurali

+1 For both the above replies.

potmeklecbohdan

What about Qt/Gtk on Linux? That could be another option (i. e. the user can choose used toolkit theme), don't you think?

Nekomajin

@potmeklecbohdan
It would requite to recreate the whole GUI with another framework. I guess it won't happen.

potmeklecbohdan

@Nekomajin Who said that? I thought all this is only about styles (reading from config files and generating CSS). Do you think V devs would re-make the UI even only in WinForms/WPF? And if they would: making it only in one of Qt/Gtk would mean screams from users of the other one (and it’s not a difference like only 5% minority of users of one of them AFAIK).

Nekomajin

@potmeklecbohdan
This topic is about styling the existing GUI to fit into the OS design.

GraveDigger

i don't see why we can't have the best of both worlds. brave, chrome, and opera all allow for either use of classic or gtk. with classic you can choose a theme from thousands out there, under gtk the browser is themed using the system colors. the browser has always been the one element left out of being themed by the system when custom themes are being use, rather it be mac windows or linux. i like vivaldi's take on theming the browser cause too many times there just isn't a theme out there that fits what one really wants, and with vivaldi's way one get to control all the elements, but make no mistake it would be nice to have the gtk feature as well so as to be able to chose between them. i also have both chrome and brave and both are set to gtk and look fantastic.

7twenty

The way that i read the post is that there should be a default OS style skin option. That doesn't mean it needs to be re-coded to use a particular UI library, just so long as the basics are there in terms of iconography/colours/font/menu styles etc. Obviously the closer it is the better, but sometimes close enough is good enough.

If i'm running Win10 there should be the standard title bar window controls and scroll bars/menus etc.

I believe it would be mostly possible with the current system in place, just that it would be a lot more work creating unique code for each OS style instead of a one-size-fits-all + a few unique elements as it is now. And i don't think there's options for transparency of the UI, so Fluent Design elements won't be possible.

Definitely harder for a program that is cross-platform compared to one that isn't, but still doable.

potmeklecbohdan

@Nekomajin said in Native Themes to Match the OS Design:

This topic is about styling the existing GUI to fit into the OS design.

So… why this then?

@Nekomajin said in Native Themes to Match the OS Design:

It would requite to recreate the whole GUI with another framework. I guess it won't happen.

Nekomajin

@potmeklecbohdan
This topic is about native(ish) THEMES, not native GUI. Vivaldi uses a JS framework to build its GUI. It is possible to style this GUI with CSS, so you can choose among several themes and also make your own.

Creating stylesheets to make the GUI look like a native interface on major operating systems is possible with pure CSS, but it definitely needs SOME work.

Now we can only modify the colors on some GUI elements. This request is about the ability to modify menus, toolbars and scrollbars as well. And not just the colors, but gradients, transparency and other visuals.

What you are talking about with Qt/Gtk is to rewrite the whole GUI in other languages. This definitely won't happen, because it means to recreate and maintain all GUI functionality, which is a LOT of work.

Nekomajin

@GraveDigger
Could you show us a screenshot of Chrome using Gtk?

potmeklecbohdan

@Nekomajin No. You came with this. I asked what is gonna be supported on Linux (via CSS, not rewriting the UI), where everything/nothing is native — I think Gtk and Qt are most widely used, so these two are both like native (it also much depends on the desktop environment).