Custom Speed Dial thumbnails – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.10.862.6
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I've just visited http://html5test.com site which claimed me I am using "Vivaldi 1.91".
So I looked to Vivaldi About page and in the User Agent there is really:Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/59.0.3071.90 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.91.867.3
Interesting... Is it a bug or intention?
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@nfsmaniac see the reply to the same question previously on this thread
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/17235/custom-speed-dial-thumbnails-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-1-10-862-6/126 -
@iAN-CooG Thanks, but I'm confused from @Gwen-Dragon's answer:
Some websites do not detect Vivaldi correctly and they do not know about newer 1.10, they check only for 1.9 numbers, thats wh the UA has such big version number.
The problem is not in detection. The problem is already present in the User Agent string by which is Vivaldi identifying to web sites. In other words: Vivaldi itself is claiming itself it's a Vivaldi 1.91. Vivaldi has bad "identification card" so also sites are not able to read it correctly.
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@nfsmaniac you got it wrong, I don't know which sites exactly, but they confused 1.10 with 1.1, while with 1.9x they think it's 1.9... the solution should be fire those idiots hired as webmasters and let someone knowing what they're doing fix the websites.
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@iAN-CooG So you want to tell me that in the Vivaldi Team there are idiots to be fired too?
Oh, it's so bad...This is the "identification card". This complete UA string is processed by webmaster's code. Webmasters may be bad programmers so they make bad program to process this full UA string. But when already the input is bad, bad is also the output (=result of the UA processing program).
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@nfsmaniac you continue to not understand what happened. In the first 1.10 snapshots UA was 1.10.something, as it should. Some websites, no specific name was made to me, so I don't know which, by reading 1.10 in the UA, they misinterpreted it as 1.1, and probably gave error saying the 1.1 is outdated. Vivaldi team must have temporarly worked around it by replacing the UA in the subsequent snapshots as 1.91, tricking those sites in believing it's Vivaldi 1.9 (not 1.91, they don't even read the 2nd cipher in the minor release).
For sure this issue with those sites should be resolved before the actual 1.10 release, it would be a pity that due to some minus habens not able to read properly a UA, Vivaldi should stick to a madeup UA forever... -
@Gwen-Dragon @iAN-CooG Ah sorry, I understand now.
If websites can't correctly detect the version... OK, it's known thing.
What surprise me more is that the "bad sites" can EVER detect Vivaldi.
Also if we talk about websites -- isn't better to compare only the Chromium core version to derive (and bother you) that you have an outdated browser as all Chromium based browser has same capabilities?
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@nfsmaniac Okay, I'm somewhat confused and baffled... Vivaldi has put "Vivaldi 1.91" in the User Agent, and that there haven't been any reports of web sites breaking. Why is this upsetting to so many people, let alone anyone at all??
Apparently Microsoft skipped "Windows 9" because there's still a ton of software out there (written by "clever" coders) that would have confused it with Windows 95 and Windows 98.
This kind of stuff is all very normal and typical in the IT world.
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@xyzzy said in Custom Speed Dial thumbnails – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.10.862.6:
This kind of stuff is all very normal and typical in the IT world.
If you mean that it's normal that there are too many incompetent people behind a computer, yes, that is sadly true.
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@iAN-CooG I try not to be too harsh in my judgements. Much of my experience has come from turning around troubled large projects. Sure, there are a lot of inexperienced people in IT without good mentors. Quality can also become an issue even with totally competent people given the "right" set of imperfect circumstances.
Many organizations (reflexively) say that "Quality is our #1 priority" but often, in reality, it's fourth or fifth on their list at best.
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Dear Ms. Popova,
We know that many of you like to tinker with just about anything in the Vivaldi browser
Thank you for recognizing this