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@D0J0P After a little bit of testing, I've found that the animation is sluggish much more frequently once there are enough tabs open to fill the tab bar. This makes sense, as that means there is more on-screen content to be animated and therefore requires more resources. I still wouldn't think it would be so much strain on the system that it would slow down that badly, though.
One thing I can say for certain is that the animation looks very nice when it works properly
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@aqewz: I never trust Vivaldi in this aspect (at least for now), specially between snapshots. But since I created the habit to manually backup all the necessary files and folders from default profile folder in order to make a clean install, since some months ago I haven't made the standard update procedure anymore.
I always do a clean install.
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@d0j0p: Yeah, I can see it now. A little sluggish indeed, but it's there. And it's cool!
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@Tiamarth Yep, I had quite a bit of tabs on my tab bar while testing it out and it did get sluggish, meanwhile other animations in the UI such as the panel is always buttery smooth, which means the tab animations themselves do need some optimizing.
Quick Commands is smooth opening up, but the input of text is sluggish, which others have also confirmed, so it depends on each animation.
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@D0J0P No, don't conclude that, yet. There needs to be independent confirmation or rebuttal from other Linux users here. TBPH i don't really trust my own assessment on this point. As i have already stressed, this feature is unimportant to me, & is something i'd never heard of or contemplated prior to initially reading about it in our fora/blogs as being on some people's wish list. It remains entirely possible that my own V-SS Deb installation is now tab-animating away like a champion, only that i'm too ignorant to recognise it. As soon as any other Linux user confirms it works for them, i will utterly accept that the problem is me being insufficiently perceptive.
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Tower & Lappy = Maui Linux 17.03 x64 Plasma 5.9.3.
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@Tiamarth Thanks for the feedback, As i just separately posted a few moments ago, this seems to confirm that i am the issue, not V-Deb. That said, immediately after reading your post & commencing this reply, i yet again launched a new tab [= SD page]... as each prior time, it simply instantly opened. When i closed it, it instantly vanished. For the life of me i seem too stupid to perceive anything snazzy/"animatey" happening. Oh well. For mathematical averaging purposes the world needs to have stupid people as well as smart ones, & i'm in the former camp.
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Tower & Lappy = Maui Linux 17.03 x64 Plasma 5.9.3.
Vivaldi 1.10.845.3 (Official Build) dev (64-bit)
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@Steffie I don't know what to say. I just booted into Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.1 x64, which has been newly reinstalled, so I decided to install Vivaldi for the first time on the new snapshot, and the tab animations worked perfectly. In fact, they were shockingly smooth and fluid, but that could just be the new install.
I'm not sure if there's something wrong with your current install. If you want, you can try refreshing your profile and see if it works.
Though it's weird that there's no mention about the tab animations in the blog post itself. You'd think the team blog post would mention something like that, but there's nothing in there are all that talks about tab animations. It only talks about vertical tab width and tab close button alignment.
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@D0J0P Sometimes I think that the designers and developers enjoy releasing UI enhancements with no fanfare whatsoever just to see how long it takes for people to notice and to see who picks up on them first.
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@D0J0P Nah, over the past coupla years with V i have rebuilt my V profile sooo many times; it's a significant PITA which burns hours each time. In the past i did it when V was giving me seriously major grief. This time however, it's far from certain that anything is wrong with my profile, & even if there was, its only [potential] symptom to date is this question about tab animations... which as stated are utterly unimportant to me anyway. I will need to be experiencing some real problems with V before i'll feel motivated to give up the time & effort to do-over my profile again. Thanks anyway.
BTW, as a quick afterthought, several months ago i was having a really dreadful run of crashes [total system freezes] of my Tower, which after months of stress & troubleshooting was pinned down to my Nvidia gpu/card. I then removed it & reverted ever since then to simply using my Intel integrated gpu. I [enthusiastically] use a Plasma5 distro with [my preference] substantial use of its KWin Desktop Effects, + 3 Activities & 9 VDs per Activity. ALL of the stuff i just mentioned, continues to work fine without the dedicated gpu [in some specific examples the performance is actually even better than before]. I mentioned all that guff now coz it crossed my mind that maybe i'm "missing out" on this legendary V tab animation effect due to an incapacity of my gpu... only thing is that i suspect all the P5/KWin eye-candy likely places far greater demands on the system graphics, yet works great.
Not to worry -- the Bermuda Triangle, Yettis, Drop-Bears & DJT are other inexplicable mysteries currently also unsolved.
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Tower & Lappy = Maui Linux 17.03 x64 Plasma 5.9.3.
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@xyzzy In that case, I win.
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@pesala: They are probably commenting through the blog instead of the forum.
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@pettern this is how it's set currently: http://i.imgur.com/sarhMwr.png I've got some game wallpaper I got some weeks ago, I'm pretty sure I dragged an image to my desktop, right click then "set as wallpaper".
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@D0J0P If you hadn't posted those videos, I would have had a problem understanding what the "animation" discussion was referring to.
@Steffie As "another Linux user" I can say that the animation is only noticeable when watching the "Open new tab" button sliding left or right. For me it very smooth and I do not see the obvious delay (before it slides next to the last tab) that is shown in the videos when closing tabs.
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@TbGbe said in Toggle image visibility – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.10.845.3:
the animation is only noticeable when watching the "Open new tab" button sliding left or right
Ta. On [i7 32 GB] Tower still, i tried tried tried retried, all the while staring at the "+". I tried it with the animation box ticked, unticked, ticked, unticked. No matter, each time it was bang bang bang - instant responses, as i have said all along. Then, i went to my [i5 8 GB] Lappy & repeated the same efforts. Aha. Finally i saw what might be what all the hooha is about. With animations unticked, the "+" displaces L or R instantly, like on Tower under both conditions. But on Lappy, when animations is ticked, the "+" seems to wait an almost but not quite imperceptible fraction of a whisker of a gnat's breath of a second, & then bang it appears in the new displaced position. It is almost but not quite identical to the unticked outcome. Frankly, if this is what all the fuss is about, then... <<expletives deleted>>. Much ado about nothing.
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@D0J0P You win! Congratulations!!
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@Steffie Hey, I did my best to set the right expectations! They're nice, subtle... but not mind blowing.
Thanks for confirming that they work on Linux. I'll give you a prize too! Please don't throw them at me...
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With the new tab animation code, I tried torture testing the drag-and-drop code that's been working pretty well lately. Moving individual tabs generally works fine. However, I've run into minor glitches when moving groups of tabs and also groups of tabs that include a tab stack.
Sometimes, when moving a group of tabs from one window to another, it looks like I've grabbed the tabs but the tabs do not get moved. This replicates semi-consistently.
When I move multiple tabs from one window to another, I still end up with some of them becoming blank/dead tabs. I've reported this previously, and it replicates most consistently when moving three (or more) tabs to a previously initiated window.
When moving tabs (individual and groups) within the same window and doing lots of random tab operations, I was able to confuse Vivaldi enough that all the tabs "clumped together" into the leftmost spot on the tab bar. (I have not found a way to replicate this reliably.)
Lastly, I was able to induce a crash. I thought that this was related to my blank/dead tab bug and a focus issue. Then I realized that it was because I did a keyboard action on a tab that was in the process of opening. It looks like there's a bug where new tabs get keyboard focus too soon and this can potentially cause a crash. It replicates fairly easily if you do a Command-T; Command-S or Command-T; Command-P in rapid succession.
Thanks!
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@TbGbe I notice that when your tab bar isn't full, the new tab itself moves very slightly, or it's very quick, but you mostly notice movement because the + new tab button always moves when you open or close a new tab. So the tab itself has a very subtle movement, whereas the + has a move obvious movement.
When the tab bar is full, you can really see movement on all tabs because you see them expand and contract.
When you group and ungroup a tab stack, you see some motion there that wasn't there before.
Not mind blowing, but it's nice to see something happening instead of nothing. It'd be cool to see something more in the future though, or at least improvements on this one.
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@D0J0P said in Toggle image visibility – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1.10.845.3:
Not mind blowing, but it's nice to see something happening instead of nothing. It'd be cool to see something more in the future though,
Well, as I have new tab set to (Vivaldi Speeddial) I also see the Tab Favicon change, this is VERY noticeable
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@TbGbe You mean when you open a new tab, and it goes from a globe favicon to the 9 dots?
That reminds me. If you look super, super closely when you open and close a tab, and I think it's more obvious when your tab bar is already full, then you'll see favicons of other tabs move ever so slightly to the left and right to adjust. It's a little clunky and not smooth, but it's there.