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    It’s time to do the right thing, Microsoft

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    • JuniorSilva30
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      JuniorSilva30 @ultraviolet
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      Yes 8):)

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      • ozoratsubasa
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        ozoratsubasa @JuniorSilva30
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        omg haha nice background image

        t.me/senna889091

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          A Former User @NSANE
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          I am currently rocking a Insider Preview and I know for a 100% fact that when I went from 15002 to 15014 by default browser went from Vivaldi -> Microsoft Eehge(on purpose) regular updates like driver updates would never trigger that something like old -> Anniversary update would however 🙂 Like it did for me, I love Windows 10 but the shit they do is annoying af

          In my opinion apart from design Chrome is better than Edge, nothing beats Vivaldi

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            pewm-pewm
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            I don't like it, but I wouldn't say that Microsoft is a bully. I still love Microsoft and Windows. Also, yes, the settings are buggy and sometimes do not work, but there are workarounds, and it usually works. Also, how hard is it to change your default browser? And to make sure Microsoft hasn't done anything weird with your browser, you can set Vivaldi to check if it is the default every time you open it.

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              A Former User
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              Yea a lot of people have this issue and a lot don't, I love how nothing makes sense(sarcasm)

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                pewm-pewm @YamiryuuZero
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                It's a glitch with the default things. The workaround is to go into advanced settings for it, and change it there. Windows 10 is great in my opinion.

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                  Lurtz
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                  Please don't jump on the Microsoft hate wagon, it has gotten so old and I find it rather disconcerting.

                  I would hold you to your own words: Focus on making a better browser, that people want to use.

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                  • YamiryuuZero
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                    YamiryuuZero @pewm-pewm
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                    I did. It didn't work. Would stop the bug for that one session I was having, but if I were to shut down my computer, reset or even just put it to sleep and wake up again, the bug would return. There was no permanent fix for it!

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                    • YamiryuuZero
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                      YamiryuuZero
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                      俺はノルウェー人じゃないけどな。そもそもMicrosoftが卑怯な手段を選んだのさ。ユーザーの許しも無く、OSが勝手にWindows10にアップデートした場合も多いんだ。そしてどうやって元のOSに戻る方法知らず、そのままにさせるしかなかったユーザーもたくさんいるだそうだ。

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                      • YamiryuuZero
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                        YamiryuuZero @Lurtz
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                        And then Microsoft comes in and doesn't let you use your browser! Not only the browser, but other programs that are not made by Microsoft as well! It's not a hate wagon, it's consumers expressing their discontent with a company that takes anti-consumer stances in their products and services!

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                        • YamiryuuZero
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                          YamiryuuZero @NSANE
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                          I upgraded to Windows 10 Pro x64, and I faced all the problems Jon listed above and more, making my OS completely unusable!

                          No, this is not misinformation. You're just lucky you've never faced it!

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                            Lurtz
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                            I have no problems using the browser I want, nor any other programs.

                            The picking of standard applications is generally improved in Windows 10, because not every program can just change that setting and it is all organised in one central place, that is quite user friendly to use.

                            I think Vivaldi has a pretty tech savvy user base, so I don't think Vivaldi suffers too much from the problem, that a build upgrade may reset your standard browser. So I think this article is mostly a PR move to bring Vivaldi to the headlines - and at least on tech sites it worked.

                            This is just my humble opinion, lest someone feels attacked by it. I think Vivaldi has a long way to go yet, and bigger problems than the standard browser setting on Windows 10 (that supposedly no one in their right mind would want to use, anyway 😉).

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                            • CptGuapo
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                              CptGuapo
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                              I got this eventually, normally when updating some of the browsers I use (Viv, FF, Maxthon or Chrome). And from out of nowhere, when I click on a link, Edge starts… ¬¬

                              Annoying, but I think is the standard behavior from MS... I'm not surprised at all... Apart from that, Win 10 is great in my opinion. It is very stable here and when something got wrong, I normally resolve it quickly. No complaints specifically in this matter.

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                                Walker @t0ken407
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                                Ubuntu and Mint (and probably others) are certainly usable by non-techies if there's a techie around to get things set up.

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                                  Walker
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                                  My problem with Windows updates is even worse than the browser default, which was a quick fix. I seldom use W10, but when I do it's on my PC that dual-boots to W10 and Ubuntu. Every time Microsoft has done a major update (about once a year), the update destroys my dual boot, making the computer boot directly to Windows without even giving a Linux option. Although I'm more technically inclined than the average user, reestablishing the dual boot for me is no trivial matter.

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                                    aach1
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                                    "Microsoft has made it complicated for a non-technical user to bring their old default browser back."

                                    Sorry, but that is just wrong.

                                    I'd never set it myself (I use Vivaldi on windows10 but have left Edge as default so I get to see how it is). So, having never set it but knowing that windows10 doesn't typically make things difficult, I had a look. Here's how complicated it is:

                                    • Type "default browser" into the "Ask me anything" box
                                    • Select "Choose a default web browser", which is the very first item in the results list
                                    • Click to see all the possible browsers (in my list, vivaldi, firefox, chrome)
                                    • Select the one you want.

                                    Fiendish, eh.

                                    I have some sympathy for the argument that Microsoft shouldn't reset the default, so it would be better if the argument wasn't diluted by dark suggestions about them purposely making their users' lives hard. The search (and voice control) stuff in windows 10 is many steps ahead; if you don't know how to do something, you usually just have to ask.

                                    For the record - I use Windows 10 at home, Windows 7 and Centos Linux at work and I have a Mageia installation as a VM on my windows 10 tablet. I'm happy with all of them - horses for courses.

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                                      whizzwr @NSANE
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                                      Also related: "Microsoft has made it complicated for a non-technical user to bring their old default browser back" is not exactly true (Maybe yeah for a 72 y.o, just like any other computer-related task). In reality, for average Joe you just press Start, type "Default Programs", press enter, there you find big fat "Web Browser" text, one click away from making your browser of choice as a system default.

                                      Then again, I had a good time imagining my tech savvy grandma rocking with Vivaldi, a browser for power user.

                                      I am going to be down-voted like crazy for saying this:

                                      but I was never a big fan of Jon's virtue signaling against MS as "big baddy monopolist" corporation. This traces back to Opera era that led into the Browser Ballot thingy.
                                      I get it unfair competition is bad for consumer, but I can't help to felt the impression it's simply a childish whining from losing player. After all anyone just need to build a better browser to win, right?

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                                      • burnout426
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                                        burnout426
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                                        I know browsers are supposed to yield to "Default Programs" now for handling protocol and file association, but I liked the way Opera Presto did it with an "always check" option (that you could turn off) and checkboxes for each protocol and file type/extension, right in the preferences UI. It was great. The only thing Opera Presto didn't do when you chose to reassociate in its preferences was to validate and repair registry keys (and file paths in them). You had to run the installer again to fix the keys and paths in them. I think it'd be great if Vivaldi would do all of that itself.

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                                        • greybeard
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                                          greybeard Ambassador
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                                          Oddly enough, since I bought this laptop w/Win10 pre-installed, I have neve had an issue with either my default browser or lost file associations. I guess in this one sense I have been 'Lucky'.
                                          When I got it I installed my Anti-Virus, and a few security tools then Firefox and made it my default browser. It has never changed.
                                          I have also installed Vivaldi (of course) O12 to use as a mail client and Sea Monkey to evaluate their browser on a 64bit machine.
                                          Other than some audio software, math software and an office suite I really have had no issues except for the abominably long update process.
                                          Going back I do not ever recall ever having an issue using Opera (ver. < 15) as my default browser either.

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                                          • Dovelove
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                                            Dovelove
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                                            You won't ever get the US to go after monopolies as they used to do.

                                            Corporations and money control EVERYTHING here that's why it is an oligarchy not capitalists.
                                            People should have remembered that from IE having to de-link from OS. If not for EU doing lawsuit it NEVER would have been done. It's old saying Give a camel an inch in your tent he will eventually take a mile, the whole tent. Going on again it's all for show any meaningful regulation.

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