Details matter. Vivaldi 1.6 is ready
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My stupidity was not preparing for something adverse when I knew I should have. I ignored that little voice.
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I also have a problem with YouTube videos for some reason. Vivaldi doesn't crash on me, but when I click on a YouTube video to watch it, the video stays black for sometimes up to 10-15 seconds before it even starts to load. It's been like this for the last few 1.6 snapshots. Anyone else having this problem?
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What, then would you have the designers do? Nothing? Would you have them not work? Should they do development tasks (for which they are not qualified) instead? Should they never have been hired? What is your wish for designers, if not to let them do their jobs?
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Me, too. I knew better, but had to test it. Worse, then I pushed the buttons on the fragmentary "mail bar" until the browser froze.
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If you delete the "Settings" folder from your profile folder, it may solve this.
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Sorry for accidental down-voting you,
This is AFTER in settings you check how you want it to happen and doesn't follow? I've got rather a flaky system and never had that problemβ¦check to be sure. First page of gear like icon on lower left panel. -
Haha!
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[Feature request]: If save Tab Stack which is renamed for example Test name 1, and save it to bookmarks, it creates only a folder called Stack. Then again I must rename this folder in the bookmark manager. Please add a feature to automatically save rename the title tab stack. Thanks
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@HarryH:
It is impossible to post in the forums so I'll post it here. When I start Vivaldi, it starts, then disappears. When I start it again, I get a black screen with a dead bird on a black page. What's happening? The above happens consistently. Using latest version on Win7.
I answered you in the forums. You probably have an extension or a corruption in the profile mucking things up. You might even have a bad page in the current session that's crashing the browser each time you start. [Refresh your profile].
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Is it possible to change both shortcut keys for opening a link in background and unfocusing a form?
As a heavy spatial navigation and Vim user I need more control -
After every install, when Vivaldi relaunches itself, it doesn't remember the window position/size + doesn't use the switches that were used to launch it. (have to use /high-dpi-support=1 /force-device-scale-factor=1 since Vivaldi doesn't like HiDPI normally).
Not a big thing, just pointing it out.Anyway, would be nice to get some better custom theme support, since you are already doing a fantastic job that allows us to mess around with the UI so easily, it's just slightly annoying to copy/replace things after every update (yes, i've seen the batch file in the forums to make it a bit easier), some proper support would be nice.
Oh, also, back/forward button support for SD folders ;p
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Let me answer you point by point :
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Yes, if it's better for webdev, it's better for you, because it means more and better websites
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Yes, Chromium is a cow, and it's really really bad. But it's the best engine out there, and Vivaldi doesn't have the team to build a new one right now. At the end of Presto (the engine in Opera 12), there were 100 engineers to maintain it, and it wasn't enough. So, we have to live with Chromium for now. Sadly. I really hope that Vivaldi will grow in size, and eventually will be able to fork and trim Blink to something acceptable. But it will take time, and a lot of ressources (humans, money, timeβ¦)
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For the Hue lights, it seems you don't understand. Henrik isn't a dev. But he coded that function by himself. It didn't take any from any other dev. And it was the same with theme scheduling. It doesn't take away anything, it adds.
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The time needed to do a contextual menu for image properties is huge. Because Chr doesn't provide anything for that, so 1) you have to tinker in Chr code to add an API (C++), 2) You have to find interesting stuff about the image and provide them (C++), 3) Create a window to show that data (JS+UI) 4) call that window in a context menu (JS). This mean that you have to coordinates multiple devs and designers, with different skills, to achieve that thing, which isn't easy to code. So, time/human wise, I'll say coding something "as simple" as a context menu for for images properties is at least ten times more consuming that the Hue Lights and theme scheduling put together. Yeah.
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So, with a very low cost as I explained above, and very high marketing value, including those two features is a no brainer. It's worth every penny, especially since Vivaldi doesn't have enough users yet to earn some money (yeah, it's losing money right now. You are bitching on a product that you get for free and that is losing money). Vivaldi needs user badly. Because it needs the money to live, and to hire more developers who would accelerate the dev pace. So it's really a no brainer.
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Customization is very, very high on the list. But before that, you have to have a (relatively) working browser, or it means shit. And BTW, theme scheduling is customization
But I get your point. And it's a really, really hard task (and that's why BTW no other browser is doing it). Vivaldi is currently the most customizable browser. I know. I looked. I didn't find any that could put the tabbar at the bottom, for example. So it takes a lot of time. I saw in the bugtracker how they want to do things, and it would be awesome. But right now, to do something as basic as moving the search field, means being able to move almost every thing in the UI, which means a full rewrite of the UI, which means 4 devs working a year full time only on that (it's a guesstimage). Seeing the size of the team, it would mean everything else would be put on hold, and for a year, almost nothing could be seen by the users (and used as marketing). It's not viable right now. -
As I said, doing Hue and theme scheduling didn't take any time away from other devs. That's very important. They are working very, very hard, long hours, all the time. And if you don't see the progress, it's because they are working on big tasks. (mail is one, of course, but another one is taking a lot of dev time right now, I hope you'll see it soon). That's why you see easy/fast features going in the releases right now. Because they are easy to code, and easy to release. The big features take time, and are released less often.
To conclude all of that, you have to remember it's a balance thing : keep the press talking, so you'll have more users, to have more money, to have more devs who are working on harder tasks.
You have also to remember that they started from scratch, with a very small team, when Opera had a huge team, and 15 years worth of code. And now, compare the two actual browsers. I really, really think waiting is worth it -
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Yes, it happens with the Extension disabled as well. I have run some tests and the problem is there regardless.
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I also have a problem with YouTube videos for some reason. Vivaldi doesn't crash on me, but when I click on a YouTube video to watch it, the video stays black for sometimes up to 10-15 seconds before it even starts to load. It's been like this for the last few 1.6 snapshots. Anyone else having this problem?
Never had that one
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I kept forgetting the proper link syntax here so this is a test of that syntax.
Edit: Finally.
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Tab Stack renaming still doesn't work for me. I did a clean install again with this stable release and nothing⦠Seeing your post, in case it could be a problem related and just to check, I tried to switch to English and back to my language and still zilch...
I'll do a bug report.
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It happens to me too.
Win10 x64, Viv x64.
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Same problem here.
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What about have the option "Save as a note" or "Save in notes" on RCM to save URLs from the address bar? Since we already have "Insert note" in this case, it would be cool to complement this with "the other side of the coin"β¦
Normally I save URLs on my notes for further use and this would come to be very very handy.
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Use the bookmark panel for now, NOT the bookmark bar to do that editing.