Keep Your Friends Close: Using Web Panels for Social Media
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I would love to use panels for some news website, but it's impossible without the Ad-blockers support into it.
Is there any ETA for adblock support on panels ?Another thing, i would love to move up and down my different panels to change their orders.
Otherwise, i would never thought i would have dropped Firefox ever, but after using Vivaldi, it seems such a prehistoric browser in term of features.
Too bad, Firefox is still love for me for his philosophy, but now with Vivaldi in the race, it's difficult to me to come back to my first love.Thanks Vivaldi Team, u've made an awesome work so far.
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Another great release, keep up the excellent work Vivaldi team
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No problem with your English
I have created VB-23296 as a feature request for all of us who want to add even more panels:
A context menu entry that allows us to switch through all of the (hidden) panels. -
Thanks !!!
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Yes! Google Translate has been a lifesaver for me
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Feel free to you to visit the websites with all this flashy / noisy ads.
I'm not against acceptable ads, i know what's the business model behind websites, but some have lost reason.Sorry, I probably didn't teach you anything, you seem to be such a clever guy with your miracle solutions.
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Love web panels, but one thing I would love is the ability for them to render above the web page in the main ui. For example, if you open a web panel, the web page you are looking at may resize if it is a progressive app (ie Gmail) and that often takes a lot of cpu for a couple of secs (if you have a lot of emails), especially if the web panel is quite wide. So I'd like the web panel to effectively pop on top of Gmail and stay there until I close the panel. I know I can't get to the left side of Gmail underneath, but for this use case, I want to pop open something and then pop it closed again without the main web page even knowing or being affected. I don't think that's currently possible?
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I would love being able to control the zoom applied JUST in the web panel (I cannot find how to zoom in/out in it). If so, I could use some sites like Web WhatsApp in just a small web panel
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I despise ads a lot. I'm much more enclined to tip the creator than to support an ads system. For that reason, I block ads, and I tip the content creator myself (and they usually get more money from me that way that they would have with any amount of ads).
I also stopped listening to every radio station that broadcasts ads, same for TV. And the day that augmented reality glasses will be powerful enough to include an ad-blocker for actual real life street ads, I'll be among the firsts to use it.
Ads are one of the worst way for a society to make an economy run healthily as it keeps feeding your brain with non-stopping hints on what you "need" in your life and trick you into believing a brandmark is better than another.
Even though I understand that small content creators often rely only on that, I'll keep fighting ads as much as I can. Using a website that uses ads with an adblocker is a way to tell the content creator "No, this system won't do".
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When I make Vivaldi my main browser I plan to make use of the webpanels as a window for my personal Notes/Todo List/Knowledge Base that is Tiddlywiki
It would be very nice to eventually see some sort of collaboration between the two projects in the future, like web clipping directly into a tiddlywki file or direct saving to disk support
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Notifications on Panel !!! Anyone ???
Even a red dot is enough for me
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That would be a must to keep chat services readily accessible in a web panel
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I stopped using web panels for this when I realized they never stop loading in the background. I had Twitter and even with the panel closed, it was constantly reloading the feed. I checked this multiple times with my task manager. Not sure if this was fixed or not, since maybe its not even a bug and some people want this (I don't, not at least for most web panels).
I hope you guys realize this.
If the web panel is open, sure you want them to be active, its just like having a different window open but smaller.
But if the web panels are currently closed, the sites are still constantly loading in the background eating bandwidth, CPU and even trashing your disk. Personally I don't like this. If a web panel is closed/minimized (not in your visual rendering screen), it should stop the activity. I understand some may like this, but its like constantly loading invisible websites when you are not looking. This makes your whole system slower and so it does Vivaldi.
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Hmmm⦠I don't see it this way.
IMHO, a web panel should behave like an open tab, whatever it is displayed or not. For example, one of my main usage is for instant messaging (Facebook web messenger, Hangout web, ...). I want Vivaldi to play a notification or a sound when a new message arrive, even if the web panel was hidden.
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I agree at 1000 %
This would be awesome for chat services like duarte.framos said, but I'm not sure how this could be done⦠What should trigger this notification? For example, I know that Google Chrome blinks the inbox/gmail tab if there is a new hangout message, but I don't know what is the mechanism behind that. -
Nice! Good shout with Pocket. I'm a bit obsessed with that one myself so might make sense to give it a home there.
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Great to hear! Out of curiosity, what's your favourite use for them?
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Hmm. Do you mean you'd like to display the panels on the right side of your window? That can be done in Settings > Panels > Panel Position
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And I don't disagree. This is probably exactly what you want for some panels, just take into account that the web panel will not show a notification on its own, you still need to open it, so is there really a point in keep loading it when you are not viewing it and its closed? Yes and no.
I suspect for some things, you want this. But for others no. Let me make you a few examples, do you have all your web panels open all the time? Probably not. So does it make sense to load all of them all the time everytime? Probably not. It's a waste of resources. Most people close tabs they don't use for that reason. But with web panels you don't. So if you have a few web panels you only log in or check once a day or every few hours or even every few days, they are still running, all the time, regardless if you are viewing them or not.
About resources I disagree with you. Imagine if you have 30 web panels in Vivaldi. That means that Vivaldi is now having 30 websites loading all the time. Your browser, even with 1 tab open, now uses the memory of a 30 tab vivaldi browser and CPU, and disk. You just increased your resources by 30+ even when you are browsing 1 single website. Is that what most people want? I don't think so. If you have web panels closed, they are still using resources. Even if you are not watching it or open.
I suspect, the best approach would be to have a setting where you can freeze or only load a web panel when you open it. This way a user can leave regular web panels (like notifications, or auto loading news feed) to load in the background but set some other web panels to only load when you open the web panel (just like a new tab).
Just think a minute about it.
Do you want all your bookmarks to load every time you open the browser? No. You only want to load a website when you open that bookmark. Same for most web panels.
I only want some web panels to load that content when I click on the web panels, not all the time. When I close the web panel the ram and resources should be emptied. This will work fine for most web panels because if you need to check a new message, news or notifications, it will be there once you open it (as its loading from scratch). Loading the site when you open the web panel will have exactly the same effect as opening a new tab. Once closed, it should be like closing a tab.
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My main use for web panels back in the Opera12 days was for web-dev , jump links to everyday tasks, and email. I miss email in web-panels
In Vivaldi I use it only for jump-links. If you can create your own HTML page then you can chuck in all the links you need for your day-to-day tasks. It's better than speed dial