Snapshot 1.0.375.3 - Over fifty further fixes and improvements
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Please add an option to have close button on tabs always visible.
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I just found an issue with this one - extension icons appear blurry.
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I was also testing the performance a little bit and I encountered a strange behavior. Don't know if I'm imagining it or if it's really possible, but initially toggling the panel, which I've got docked on the right side of the browser, was pretty juddery. After switching it to the left for testing purposes, I felt that the animation was much more fluid. I thought it had something to do with the way the renderer works and that it may be more efficient in shifting it's content to the right than to the left.
After switching the panel back the right though, the performance was still pretty fluid. Not at all as juddery as it was before changing the settings.
Is it possible, that changing the settings is recompiling the panel or something, which lead to an increase in performance?PS:
Oh and just to be clear. The performance is still pretty bad. It's not unacceptable bad anymore.UPDATE:
Hmm. After further testing I'm pretty sure i was just imagining a performance increase were actually there wasn't none. Since i have no real measurements to go with and this is all based on subjective feelings I could be totally wrong here. It's highly likely actually. -
Lets hope that the number of likes this post has received (as did others related to performance issues) will be an indication of the severity of the issue and developers will act accordingly.
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Thanks for the snapshot!
I've been trying Vivaldi since one of the earlier snapshots, but one thing consistently does not work for me is bookmarks. When I create a bookmark, I cannot see it although the little bookmark icon to the right of the URL box shows a green/blue color. When I then restart Vivaldi, then I see it. I've tried to remove the Vivaldi configuration folder to start fresh for this snapshot, but it still doesn't work properly. If I use the same bookmarks file with Chromium, it works like a treat.
I'm running Arch Linux 64-bit btw.
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i decided to record the difference between opera and vivaldi ui smoothness and i discovered that with empty profile vivaldi performs much better (but still lags sometime).
i managed to get it slower after re-opening the same tabs i have in my main vivaldi installation, but it was still a little bit faster. probably installing extensions, setting speed dials, storing some cache, cookies, passwords, history, search engines etc - would make empty profile as slow as main profile
i recorded experiment with holding ctrl+t and here are the results: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lsbppzg7iaj421u/2016-01-21_15-07-04.mp4?dl=0
(don't mind the other vivaldi window - it's my main profile from different location, it didn't affect the experiment (i tested it few times), just forgot to close it)
here is 2nd experiment with processor speed capped to 25%
i tested two things:- ui responsiveness test (by opening/closing some sidebar)
- 4 new tabs opening at once
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eso0kucgawo3f74/2016-01-21_15-47-13.mp4?dl=0
looks like the main problem of vivaldi is that drawing UI doesn't have, idk, a separate process from anything else vivaldi is doing ?
i did not record not-extreme tests like showing/hiding sidebar with full processor speed, as it performs around 15fps in vivaldi, which is my video recorder frame rate anyway so you won't notice that opera has smooth 60fps there
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New Bugs (Viv 64, Win 7)
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When I start up, the page zoom for all tabs has been reset to 80%, which might be because it is my interface zoom setting.
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When deleting cookies, if I filter the cookie list, the filter resets to null after each deletion operation.
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Same result with extensions disabled with –disable-extensions
p/s
I'm replying to my own comment and reposting the previous link because apparently "I don't have the necessary rights for this" when trying to edit my comment -
When will work extension for screenshots (like "Awesome Screenshot")?
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I'm also really eager to see saving and loading of sessions, even in a primitive form, before we get to version 1.0. Since Viv already saves one "session", it doesn't seem to me to be a very difficult feature to code.
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can you check javascript console output?
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I have my task manager arranged by name - and for whatever reason, it adds processes to the bottom of the list under the app name.
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Yeah. Closest I can come to that is my 2008 Lenovo R61i. It's got an Intel core 2 duo running at 1.66 GHz, but it also has a new SSD I put in it, and 3 GB of PC2-5300 RAM. And it's very-quick-responding. But with the SSD and the additional RAM, it's probably not really a fair comparison.
I SHOULD MENTION that all of my Windows hardware made in 2007 or later is running Win10. This also makes everything more energy efficient, lighter, and quicker-responding than Win7 or earlier.
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It is "emulated." The GUI is essentially a web page.
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Not really practical. For security and web-compatibility reasons, if nothing else, they have to "keep up with the Joneses" as much as possible concerning Chromium versions. Further, to take a step back in version means re-writing parts of the browser and undoing all of the "fixes" they had to make to update to their latest version. Every time they update Chromium, it breaks stuff. They have to fix that stuff to adopt the new version, and from that point there's really no going back. All they can do is move forward with more fixes.
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i decided to record the difference between opera and vivaldi ui smoothness and i discovered that with empty profile vivaldi performs much better (but still lags sometime).
i managed to get it slower after re-opening the same tabs i have in my main vivaldi installation, but it was still a little bit faster. probably installing extensions, setting speed dials, storing some cache, cookies, passwords, history, search engines etc - would make empty profile as slow as main profile
i recorded experiment with holding ctrl+t and here are the results: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lsbppzg7iaj421u/2016-01-21_15-07-04.mp4?dl=0
(don't mind the other vivaldi window - it's my main profile from different location, it didn't affect the experiment (i tested it few times), just forgot to close it)
here is 2nd experiment with processor speed capped to 25%
i tested two things:- ui responsiveness test (by opening/closing some sidebar)
- 4 new tabs opening at once
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eso0kucgawo3f74/2016-01-21_15-47-13.mp4?dl=0
looks like the main problem of vivaldi is that drawing UI doesn't have, idk, a separate process from anything else vivaldi is doing ?
i did not record not-extreme tests like showing/hiding sidebar with full processor speed, as it performs around 15fps in vivaldi, which is my video recorder frame rate anyway so you won't notice that opera has smooth 60fps there
THANK YOU!
THIS is what I've been talking about… and the perfect videos 'jacekn' provided, proves what is Vivaldi's fundamental problem in Performance and GUI...
I really hope all of Vivaldi's Developers come here and see these 2 videos and make some comments about it... Vivaldi's GUI Performance is a mess and I believe it's finally time to do something about it...
@jacekn : You are the best... I've been wanting to make a video like yours for a long time to help make Vivaldi better... but you just made 2 perfect examples... Thanks...
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I wish everyone could see this post… I'm gonna put it at the end of the comments... and I really hope this time Developers do something about this...
Thank you...
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The global Autotype functionality of Keepassx is not working properly. Keepassx recognizes the correct window title and selects the right account data, but instead of entering it into the selected login fields, random things happen: mostly the UI is focused, the menu opens and only fragments of the account data is written to the login form.
I'm using Vivaldi 64 bit on Ubuntu 15.10 (64bit). Autotype works with current Firefox, Opera, etc.
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i forgot to mention - first demo is recorded with almost empty vivaldi profile (just added the sidebars, nothing more)
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i just realized something.
if whole ui is web based = ui is a big document with other documents inside (probably as iframes) - lagging tabs will always hurt base ui performance as they are part of it. and i don't really see a way to fix that. im worried about it. this just won't work. web is slow, always was and probably always will. basing such as heavy app as web browser on web - won't end welli hope you ditch that idea, not every idea is good, and going wrong way knowing it's wrong way .. it's not smart
@wojcieche - any info about that?