Update of How blocking adblock-detection?
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The question remains whether Vivaldi's built-in blocker can keep up.
Again, totally out of touch with the reality of the facts and history, and also being unreasonable and unfair with Vivaldi's team:
uBO: Since 2014
Adguard: Since 2009
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@barbudo2005 said in Update of How blocking adblock-detection?:
and also being unreasonable and unfair with Vivaldi's team
How so?
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@barbudo2005 said in Update of How blocking adblock-detection?:
Again, totally out of touch with the reality of the facts
I am surprised about your last statements here. The reason for my post is the popup with the adblock-detection.
All in all, in my case the built-in blocker does not seem to work as comprehensively as uBO. And I'm looking for advice.Nevertheless, I have confidence that it will be further improved over time and can replace uBO. However, I dared to ask if Vivaldi could keep up.
Why is that "out of touch"?
I have the impression that you haven't really understood my concern and are going a little too much against the grain today.Vivaldi with mail-client and calendar
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@Dancer18 said in Update of How blocking adblock-detection?:
Why is that "out of touch"?
I have the impression that you haven't really understood my concern and are going a little too much against the grain today.He's usually very selfish when it comes to answering, just look at his posts.
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@pilis55 It is the first time that I recognized that.
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……...And I'm looking for advice.
In this matter, it is necessary to be practical and realistic:
If you only want to :
1.- Not to see ads on any site including YT, and of course be protected against tracking.
2.- That no site tells you that you must disable the adblocker.Use uBOL.
If you are one of those who use uBO taking out all its functionality:
Use Adguard.
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I have confidence that it will be further improved over time and can replace uBO. However, I dared to ask if Vivaldi could keep up.
Why is that "out of touch"?
For the simple reason that you can't ask the team to do in a short time the same as uBO and Adguard who are exclusively dedicated to this business since 2014 and 2009, and also have a platform on Reddit and Github that receive daily user complaints about problematic sites.
And they have a paid team in the case of Adguard and a team of helpers in the case of Gorhill who are specialists in this subject.On the other hand, if this adblock detection issue were based only on lists, it would be very simple and it is not. There is some "magic" in the software itself.
PS.
Why do you have this desire that the built ad blocker can replace uBO as if it were a matter of principle? This is a purely practical question, which of the options gives you the result you need.
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How many profiles do you have?
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@pilis55 @barbudo2005
Per the Vivaldi Community Terms of Use:
What you agree not to do
Create or use multiple accounts to abuse Vivaldi policies, bypass Vivaldi account limitations, circumvent filters or otherwise subvert restrictions placed on your account. (For example, if you’ve been blocked by another user or have had your Vivaldi account disabled due to abuse, don’t create a replacement account that engages in the similar activity.)
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The accounts weren't used for any abusive purpose. You can even take a look at each one's posts.
I deleted the accounts via Vivaldi's Account page but on the forum they still remained.
If a mod can close them it would be good. If not, it's ok, I don't have access to them once they were deleted.
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Hi, back to the building, there are several workarounds for the internal add blocker.
One user use it together with uBlock Lite to kick the adblock-detection, I use 2 scripts to get YT ad free and block shorts.
The team is still working on make the internal better but script injection would be the best, it may even work on mobiles.
Adguard have an ad picker, no idea if this is possible in Vivaldi or/and how much effort is needed to add it.
Have to search if a feature request exist.Cheers, mib
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Not many user votes:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/88305/build-in-userscript-manager
Better, for mobiles and in PIPELINE:
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One user use it together with uBlock Lite to kick the adblock-detection, I use 2 scripts to get YT ad free….
There is no need to use the built-in or Script to get YT ad-free with uBOL.
Could you give the link please?
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The team is still working on make the internal better but script injection would be the best,….
There is no need to have a script manager built. We have Tampermonkey or Violentmonkey.
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Some user don't want to use extensions, therefor this thread was born.@barbudo2005 said in Update of How blocking adblock-detection?:
There is no need to use the built-in or Script to get YT ad-free with uBOL.
This was about adblock-detection not ad's, iirc it was @Catweazle, I don't have a link.
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Vivaldi internal adblocker is based on ABP.
Like most built in ad blockers except Brave's they all used ABP's embedded library to integrate a built in adblocker.
So all of them are basically ABP and since there doesn't seem to be any massive development of Vivaldi's built in adblocker you are limited using ABP's filters on it which have weak adblock-detection filters.
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@barbudo2005 said in Update of How blocking adblock-detection?:
There is no need to have a script manager built. We have Tampermonkey or Violentmonkey.
After June we will only have the proprietary Tampermonkey because tophf doesn't seem to be interested for a MV3 version of Violentmonkey.
So our only option will be a closed source proprietary userscript manager.
Of course there will be people not comfortable using a closed source proprietary userscript manager.
A userscript manager can be very dangerous, it runs javascript code.
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@electryon Thank you for your 2 comments. Very interesting!
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Of course there will be people not comfortable using a closed source proprietary userscript manager.
A userscript manager can be very dangerous, it runs javascript code.
I have been using Tampermonkey for years and have not seen any “strange” scripts in the Dashboard.
It has 11,000,000 users and 72.200 reviews.
Do you think that there is no expert among ALL those users who has noticed something strange in all these years?
Or in other words, do you think that 11,000,000 users have not been concerned about the issue you mention?
Please don't unnecessarily fear-monger.
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@barbudo2005 said in Update of How blocking adblock-detection?:
I have been using Tampermonkey for years and have not seen any “strange” scripts in the Dashboard.
It has 11,000,000 users and 72.200 reviews.
It doesn't matter what I think.
There are millions of users who use other open source userscript managers instead of the most popular one.
These people will be left without a choice.
That's a fact and we don't know if they are willing to switch to Tampermonkey.
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These people will be left without a choice.
No. They will have a choice.
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if they are willing to switch to Tampermonkey.
It is up to them alone.
Moreover, this option has always existed in Vivaldi:
Javascript inject
Look this post by @luetage :
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/82428/css-editor/10
Save as style.user.js and drag it to the extensions page with Developer mode enabled.
