Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi
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@hauebe said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
It doesn't work with vivaldi log in!
Maybe you're not using sync? I'm not cause I backup my profile's default folder so have no need for Vivaldi's built in sync, and I couldn't sign using my Vivaldi account.
@mathieulefrancois said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
@CummingCowGirl said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Nothing wrong with the Proton products.
Quite the opposite in fact. I pay for the Proton suite and have never run into any issues. I love their stuff.
Want to fix your post and call out the one I called out cause they are the one that does not want Proton products? Thanks
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Nice to have Proton VPN intergrated.
Dear Vivaldi, how about making a partnership with Adguard Inc too?
June is coming, uBO will be gone...
Your internal ad blocker is basically Adblock Plus, it can load only ABP filters. So no advanced filter syntax is supported and many sites can detect your ad blocker like they can detect ABP.
The MV3 Adguard extension because of the way MV3 extensions have to work in order to keep the service worker awake can load the trackers or show ads if the service is not awaken yet and the most important it is very resource heavy because it needs at least 300 MB of RAM to be used all the time in order to wake up the service worker.
Make a similar partnership with Adguard Inc too in order to have an advanced built-in ad blocker like Adguard without requiring additional downloads, installations, or updates for the Adguard windows or Android app.
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@electryon I don't think integrating with Adguard would really solve many of those problems. It would still be a Manifest v3 extension, with all the disadvantages that comes with that. Integrating with Adguard's app could be more feasible, but I would assume the underlying tech wouldn't be all that compatible to the Chromium-specific Vivaldi blocker code. In short, it wouldn't be straightforward to integrate it into the browser in a meaningful way, and it might be better to instead work on improving the built in blocker.
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@CummingCowGirl my post was actually agreeing with you! But yeah I will edit my post to make that more clear
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@pgaa TV 2 Play works in the browser in the this Proton extension. I can tell you that because I litterally tried it before my reply. NRK did not work but again, I was using a non-Norwegian localtion so this is to be expected IMHO.
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@hauebe What error do you get exactly? Perhaps provide a screenshot as well as that might have some clues.
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@16patsle
It won't have to be a MV3 extension.
Adguard Inc is a very capable company and if they are asked to make an embeddable adblocker library of Adguard (something like Brave Shields or Ghostery's embeddable adblocker library), they can do it.
Like they are capable to create multiple apps and solutions for their ad blocker libraries.
But someone would have to ask first for it:) -
Proton subscription price is 6.66 - 14.99 euro per month depending on the plan. Just sayin in case someone (like me) thought it is free
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@Theovojik said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Proton subscription price is 6.66 - 14.99 euro per month depending on the plan. Just sayin in case someone (like me) thought it is free
The version in Vivaldi is free. Once signed in it said NOTHING about a trial period or paying upfront.
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If this is simply an extension, then wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it is 'included with' Vivaldi, rather than 'built into'? It also would clue people in on how to disable the feature quickly.
Current Vivaldi snapshot.. MX-23 Linux x64, KDE desktop.
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@CummingCowGirl, Proton VPN is free forever, no trial, no datalimits, but the free version has limited features and you can't select the server, it only select automaticly the nearest and fastest one. But you have full proyection and privacy (no ads or logs).
Proton is OpenSource, but most server cost money, because of this it can't offer the full service for free, no serious VPN can't.
All other VPNs are in it's free version are way more limited as Proton (data limits, ads, logs....)>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@CummingCowGirl said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Nothing wrong with the Proton products.
If Proton fits your threat model, I'm happy for you.
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@paul1149, easy, log out and delete it from the Bar if you don't want it.
>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@paul1149: Well these is integration work not just the dedicated button but also things like the login stuff. So it is slightly more than included with. And any way the extension itself is not included with, we fetch it on the fly if you try and use it.
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Hello, I'd like my browser to not integrate 3rd-party apps into itself without my consent.
I don't want to have such app "sleeping", "deactivated" or whatever else you could call it. I'd like to not have it at all.
Is that possible or should I look for another browser after 10 years with Vivaldi?Edit: found out that it's only extension and not permanent browser component. However I still strongly condemn such business practices.
By the way, here are permissions that this extension has right after its undisclosed activation by me clicking the button on toolbar. Without my consent. Very grim sign.
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@funtaril said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Hello, I'd like my browser to not integrate 3rd-party apps into itself without my consent.
I don't want to have such app "sleeping", "deactivated" or whatever else you could call it. I'd like to not have it at all.
Is that possible or should I look for another browser after 10 years with Vivaldi?It doesn't install any 3rd party apps.
An extension is not an app.
Vivaldi in case you don't know already comes with many extensions pre-installed.
Vivaldi itself is a chromium extension:)
They do NOT install any system wide application and they do not mess with your system by installing 3rd party apps and windows services.
You are confusing Vivaldi with a bloatware known as Brave. -
Unwanted imposition of an extension is not a good idea.
I don't want my browser to install things I don't want nor asked for.
This sends a bad signal to your user base.
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@Catweazle Why not ask I want a VPN in the first place ? I don't want Vivaldi to install things in the background for me.
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@macadoum said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Unwanted imposition of an extension is not a good idea.
I don't want my browser to install things I don't want nor asked for.
This sends a bad signal to your user base.
So they should also disable or remove the PDF viewer too?
Chromium PDF viewer is a chromium extension that comes pre-installed.
I don't like PDF, they installed this extension without asking and they should not include that bloat:) -
@Catweazle said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
@CummingCowGirl, Proton VPN is free forever, no trial, no datalimits, but the free version has limited features and you can't select the server, it only select automaticly the nearest and fastest one. But you have full proyection and privacy (no ads or logs).
Proton is OpenSource, but most server cost money, because of this it can't offer the full service for free, no serious VPN can't.
All other VPNs are in it's free version are way more limited as Proton (data limits, ads, logs....)I said it was free. There was no reason to come across like I didn't say that. As for the limited features as I said seem to work just fine.
