Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare
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From a few days Vivaldi ver. 5 and 4, including last build 5.6.2867.62, can't pass Cloudflare verification process and open pages like sourceforge.net and author.today. Users with Windows 7 and 8.1 are forced to use Vivaldi version 3.5. Can you release fixed version of Vivaldi for these OS?
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@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
Can you release fixed version of Vivaldi for these OS?
Outdated OS are not supported by Vivaldi.
You need to upgrade to Windows 10/11 or switch to Linux. -
@DoctorG said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
Can you release fixed version of Vivaldi for these OS?
Outdated OS are not supported by Vivaldi.
You need to upgrade to Windows 10/11 or switch to Linux.You rulez! So, I have to change my operating system, because you are too lazy to fix the bugs in your browser?
And isn't it a few thousand times easier and faster to just change my browser to Opera 95.0 Build 4635.80, which works fine under WIn 7 and opens Cloudflare? -
@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
You rulez! So, I have to change my operating system, because you are too lazy to fix the bugs in your browser?
No, the Chromium core developers & Google rule. They decided to stop support.
And there is no code for a Vivaldi on Windows 7 which can be fixed.And isn't it a few thousand times easier and faster to just change my browser to Opera 95.0 Build 4635.80, which works fine under WIn 7 and opens Cloudflare?
If that is the only solution for you, change the browser.
I do not know if a extension to change User-Agent (install in Extension Manager in devloper mode as unpacked extension) to a newer OS and Chromium version could help you.
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@upotrebitel You should contact the owners of such websites, they decided to use broken Cloudflare filter/protection on their servers.
Vivaldi can not fix bad their Cloudflare filter rules! -
@DoctorG
After last changes in Cloudflare, Vivaldi 5 can't open ANY site, that use Cloudflare protection. So, guess when Cloudflare will make changes to their security to meet the requirements of a browser used by 1-2% of users.Since all other browsers for Windows 7 work fine with Cloudflare's new changes, it is Vivaldi's fault, and you have a moral obligation to fix it if you care about your users. But, obviously, you don't care about them...
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@DoctorG said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
I do not know if a extension to change User-Agent (install in Extension Manager in devloper mode as unpacked extension) to a newer OS and Chromium version could help you.
No, User-Agent Switcher for Chrome can't change anything
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@upotrebitel Check your Ad-Tracker-blocker extension settings!
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@DoctorGTesting said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@upotrebitel Check your Ad-Tracker-blocker extension settings!
I don't use Ad-Tracker-blocker extension.
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@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
Since all other browsers for Windows 7 work fine with Cloudflare's new changes, it is Vivaldi's fault, and you have a moral obligation to fix it if you care about your users. But, obviously, you don't care about them...
You can not expect that a small company supports all outdated OSs.
I guess, there is no financial and humanpower in Vivaldi team to invest into old 5.6 code.I leave this discussion now, all was said.
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@DoctorGTesting said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
You can not expect that a small company supports all outdated OSs.
Small companies that don't care about their customers and don't maintain their own products get even smaller over time
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@upotrebitel Vivaldi has 3,100,000+ Active users, and is still growing.
I have not been keeping track of the growth rate, but if I remember rightly it is up about 50% over the last year.
No developers should waste time supporting any OS that is no longer supported. Vivaldi has to update Chromium regularly to block security holes.
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@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
Small companies that don't care about their customers and don't maintain their own products get even smaller over time
Small companies that divert scarce and costly developer resources to support OS's that are long obsolete and only used by a tiny and shrinking user pool will, themselves, quickly evaporate. Vivaldi is a free browser... product support costs to it are real, those costs to users is zero.
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@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@DoctorG said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
Can you release fixed version of Vivaldi for these OS?
Outdated OS are not supported by Vivaldi.
You need to upgrade to Windows 10/11 or switch to Linux.You rulez! So, I have to change my operating system, because you are too lazy to fix the bugs in your browser?
And isn't it a few thousand times easier and faster to just change my browser to Opera 95.0 Build 4635.80, which works fine under WIn 7 and opens Cloudflare?@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@DoctorG said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
Can you release fixed version of Vivaldi for these OS?
Outdated OS are not supported by Vivaldi.
You need to upgrade to Windows 10/11 or switch to Linux.You rulez! So, I have to change my operating system, because you are too lazy to fix the bugs in your browser?
And isn't it a few thousand times easier and faster to just change my browser to Opera 95.0 Build 4635.80, which works fine under WIn 7 and opens Cloudflare?Windows 7 was released in 2009, 16 Years ago, even Windows 10 will loose support in Octubre this Year. Windows 7 was a nice OS, but it isn0t prepared and secure in the current Web with growung risks, apart to be able to use only with an outdated browser, which ads even more security holes.
I understand that it's annoying to change an OS, but this will be the only solution, yes or yes.
You can use alternatively Linux, with nice Distros, not very different with the UI and handling from Windows, like Q4OS or Mint.
Even if you want to stay with Windows, you can use Windows X light, which is free. -
@upotrebitel same goes with you if you insist on using and outdated OS that don't have any more support from any other software producers.
You're choosing a dangerous path yourself continuing on using win7, and there's no use insisting: Vivaldi stopped supporting win7 and you have to keep what still work there but with no chance to get updates. -
@iAN-CooG said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
@upotrebitel same goes with you if you insist on using and outdated OS that don't have any more support from any other software producers.
You're choosing a dangerous path yourself continuing on using win7, and there's no use insisting: Vivaldi stopped supporting win7 and you have to keep what still work there but with no chance to get updates.My dear friend, please, don't repeat to me the Micro-gypsie$' talking points, designed to get the idiots to use the Win 10/11 spyware. In fact, in the last four years nothing useful for the users has been introduced in the Vivaldi browser, as in all other chromium-based browsers. Vivaldi version 3.5.2115 87 from February 15, 2021 works fine without any problems with all sites. Its only drawback is that the uBlackList extension cannot be installed on it, so I have to use version 5. For a lot of sites I still use Opera 12.18 with Presto engine, that work much better than any modern browser. And if it supported HTML5 and HTTPS, I'd never use anything different.
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@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
last build 5.6.2867.62, can't pass Cloudflare verification process and open pages like sourceforge.net and author.today
I can pass sourceforge.net and author.today 5.6.2867.62 x64 / Windows 7 VM.
Cloudflare tested twice and pages showed up.
Please try the troubleshooting steps, including testing in a clean profile and disabling adblocking/extensions:
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/troubleshooting-issues/ -
@upotrebitel said in Vivaldi for Windows 7 problem with Cloudflare:
don't repeat to me the Micro-gypsie$' talking points, designed to get the idiots to use the Win 10/11 spyware. In fact, in the last four years nothing useful for the users has been introduced in the Vivaldi browser, as in all other chromium-based browsers.
One may rail all they want about the path of technological obsolescence, but that will not stop it. Things change, products change, life happens. We have no inherent right to expect makers of anything to support their products forever in the face of change - particularly if those products cost users absolutely nothing, but cost their makers to support them. Users have to each decide for themselves how best to navigate techno-change, but expecting product makers to forever update their products to support one's personal desire to cling to old technology for whatever reasons is neither realistic nor rational.
