Multiple instances (versions) to be used simultaneously?

LoneRanger12

Vivaldi is the only browser that doesn't allow multiple instances (versions) to be used simultaneously unlike Chrome or Edge or Firefox or Brave or Opera. Why? Why not?

Just checking, the data of both Vivaldi is merged (and lost as per my previous post, still unanswered and unresolved) despite red vivaldi installed as per user and black vivaldi installed for all users.

If I have 2 accounts and use both of them in different ways then why I cannot on desktop. On mobile, I have both red and black Vivaldi installed without any overlapping or inconvenience.

A major drawback and shortcoming.

modedit: Please try to keep topic titles short and to the point.

Pathduck

Hmm...

$ tree -dL 1 Vivaldi*
Vivaldi
└── Application
Vivaldi-dev
├── Application
├── Mods
└── User Data
Vivaldi-mail
├── Application
└── User Data
Vivaldi-mail-snapshot
├── Application
├── Mods
└── User Data
Vivaldi-snapshot
├── Application
├── Mods
└── User Data
Vivaldi-stable
├── Application
├── Mods
└── User Data
Vivaldi-test
├── 1.0
├── 2.0
├── 3.0
├── 4.0
├── 5.0
├── 5.6
├── 6.0
├── 6.9
└── 7.1-Spatnav-test1

24 directories

I wonder...
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/standalone-version-of-vivaldi/

mib2berlin

@LoneRanger12
Hi, I read you post but cant reproduce it, I always use 3 versions of Vivaldi with different user accounts for stable, snapshot and an internal soprano build.
In addition I have some profiles with other user accounts, I guess 5 or something, many users have this.
On Windows only Standalone installs work independent, if you just install stable and then the snapshot it overwrite the install in \App Data\Local\Vivaldi\User Data and you mess up the install.

Cheers, mib

Ayespy

@LoneRanger12 I use three standalone versions of Vivaldi on all of my machines, simultaneously. This includes Windows 10 Multiple machines), Windows 11(multiple machines), Linux (1 machine), Android phone, and Android tablet. The only reason I can see you might have trouble is if you try to install different versions to the same location under the same criteria.

LoneRanger12

@Ayespy

"Just checking, the data of both Vivaldi is merged (and lost as per my previous post, still unanswered and unresolved) despite red vivaldi installed as per user and black vivaldi installed for all users."

The installer shows 3 methods -

Per user
All users (if multiple users installed like profiles)
Standalone (portable)

For location where it can be installed, that is unchangeable. The installation fails if I change any of the first 2 locations. For 3rd, smaller skeleton path works, longer fails.

I don't what you are talking about. But Vivaldi has only red and black. And both overlap.

I checked this again few hours ago but reinstalling both after uninstalling both and both of them overlapped with same data.

Which color is of Vivaldi in 3rd? White? Like Opera Dev.

LoneRanger12

@Pathduck ???

LoneRanger12

@mib2berlin That is what I am saying. Different instances should be acting standalone like other browsers have without interfering with their own profiles and data. But Vivaldi...

mib2berlin

@LoneRanger12
Hi, all users use the same user profile location as user install.
\App Data\Local\Vivaldi\User Data
Only standalone installs are independent.

Green:

LoneRanger12

@mib2berlin Green one seeing first time in this life. But never ever saw Vivaldi displaying it for users to install and use it daily.

mib2berlin

@LoneRanger12
You have to be a Vivaldi team member or a Soprano (Volunteer tester, bug hunter) to get the Soprano's build.
I use it daily for testing new features/bugs and use stable and snapshot to test user issues.
We also get updates on a daily basis or more, this is usual testing Alpha software.
I have been doing this for other companies for many years now.

LoneRanger12

@mib2berlin Can I get other color flavors instead?

(On a serious note, one should be able to use all instances of Vivaldi like other browsers provide without messing things up)

Pathduck

@LoneRanger12 said in Multiple instances (versions) to be used simultaneously?:

@Pathduck ???

This is a listing of all my Standalone installs. Except the first one which is the All Users install.

I also linked to:
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/standalone-version-of-vivaldi/
But you seem to not have noticed.

Only Standalone installs are completely separate.
You can have as many Standalone installs as you want, Stable or Snapshot.
The All Users/Per User installs share the same profile folder and so only one install of this type should exist on the system otherwise you will run into problems.

Perhaps this should be specified more clearly in the documentation but most users will run Stable.
Snapshot users are kind of expected to understand this, i.e. assumed to be more technically inclined.

Ayespy

@LoneRanger12 You have to use standalone to pick your location (and you can pick essentially any location) The only installs that share a user data profile location are user and all users. And if you install them together, although their application folders are in different locations (program files for one, and User/app data/local for the other), their user data files are installed in User/app data/local for both. This can create conflicts. And although Stable and Snapshot have different names, they do not have different install instructions. You can run one or the other if you choose User or All Users, but not both. If you install Standalone, you can install thirty different instances of any kind, so long as you use different directory locations for each. Of course you can't install the "green" one (Sopranos) unless you are a soprano. In only install standalone, ever.

LoneRanger12

@Ayespy said in Multiple instances (versions) to be used simultaneously?:

@LoneRanger12 You have to use standalone to pick your location (and you can pick essentially any location) The only installs that share a user data profile location are user and all users. And if you install them together, although their application folders are in different locations (program files for one, and User/app data/local for the other), their user data files are installed in User/app data/local for both. This can create conflicts. And although Stable and Snapshot have different names, they do not have different install instructions. You can run one or the other if you choose User or All Users, but not both. If you install Standalone, you can install thirty different instances of any kind, so long as you use different directory locations for each. Of course you can't install the "green" one (Sopranos) unless you are a soprano. In only install standalone, ever.

A unique case study. Only with Vivaldi. I have used and using multiple browsers and their different versions. I hope (but know it is impossible) that Vivaldi differentiates between these and allow users like me to use all with different profiles and app naming on windows like I can on android easily.

Ayespy

@LoneRanger12 On Linux and Android, the different versions of Vivaldi are automatically installed under different app names, in different locations, and with different profiles. Only Windows makes it possible to install different versions in the same place. This may not always be the case.

LoneRanger12

@Ayespy said in Multiple instances (versions) to be used simultaneously?:

Only Windows makes it possible to install different versions in the same place.

No, you do. If it was Windows, then it would be same for edge, chrome, opera, brave, Firefox. Installing other versions of these browsers, doesn't overlap the pre-existing profiles or data of those profiles.

This may not always be the case.

Yes, this is the case. If not so, provide an example that supports your claims.

Ayespy

@LoneRanger12 As I said, it may not always be the case. At some point, Vivaldi may change the install criteria. In the meantime, standalone works fabulously.

LoneRanger12

@Ayespy Yes, standalone has no issues. But the black one is way faster. And I use 2 vivaldis for different purposes. Cannot mix them.

Ayespy

@LoneRanger12 said in Multiple instances (versions) to be used simultaneously?:

the black one is way faster.

Interesting. I find them to be the same on my rigs.