Solved This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?

janrif

Vivaldi 7.0.3495.20 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Mail address to be filtered: Sill [email protected]

Filter: Sill AND [email protected] OR (from:^[email protected] OR from:,[email protected]) OR from:mail.sill.social AND (from:^Sill OR from:,Sill )

TIA

yojimbo274064400

@janrif,

This would explain why no matches are returned because Vivaldi is not matching against the From:fields header value (AFAICS):

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From: Sill <[email protected]>
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but instead its component parts, Email Address:

[email protected]

and its associated Display Name:

Sill

Thus Sill <[email protected]> return no matches but Sill [email protected] (without angle brackets) does return matches.

NB: when using Vivaldi to create filter against address fields:

From
To
Cc

two searches are created, the first against the Email Address and the other against the Display Name. Hopefully future refinements to search will consolidate this into a single statement.

yojimbo274064400

Does from:sill AND from:[email protected] achieve the result wanted?

janrif

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

Does from:sill AND from:[email protected] achieve the result wanted?

@yojimbo274064400 Vivaldi formatted it this way & it did not work

I have found that some addresses that have extra "." characters don't seem to work as expected. I appreciate your help.

tcltk

@janrif

This filter corresponds to one of the following condition :

1 - ^sill AND ^[email protected]

2 - ,sill AND ^[email protected]

3 - ^sill AND ,[email protected]

4 - ,sill AND ,[email protected]

(1) cannot work as it corresponds to two different expressions for only one beginning. . (2, 3 et 4) do not work as a comma appears for several users which seems not to be the case for you. But here there is only one : "Sill".

You should stay on a simple approach from yojimbo274064400 proposal : Try with [email protected] only. If it does not work try with ^Sill (capital letter + ^ (beginning of expression) to avoid filtering "silly" word for instance) . If you have to many messages you could then try "from:Sill AND from:[email protected]". "S" or "s" ? I do not know if Vivaldi is case-sensitive or not ....

tcltk

@tcltk said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

If you have to many messages you could then try "from:Sill AND from:[email protected]"

To myself ... Not sure it is the good answer as it can interpreted as two senders Sill and [email protected] , Sill AND mail.sill.social could be better. Note : "." in most language where filtering appears correspond to "matches any single character", it should not be the problem.

yojimbo274064400

@janrif said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

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I have found that some addresses that have extra "." characters don't seem to work as expected. I appreciate your help.

Can you give an example of a redacted address with extra “.”?

janrif

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@janrif said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

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I have found that some addresses that have extra "." characters don't seem to work as expected. I appreciate your help.

Can you give an example of a redacted address with extra “.”?

yojimbo274064400

@janrif,

I cannot see why it would fail to be matched. If the failure occurs when using the Mail Search field then review what is shown in the status bar to confirm there are no unexpected additions or subtraction in the search term.

yojimbo274064400

@tcltk,

AFAIK they are case insensitive and period character (.) is not a special character.

janrif

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@janrif,

I cannot see why it would fail to be matched. If the failure occurs when using the Mail Search field then review what is shown in the status bar to confirm there are no unexpected additions or subtraction in the search term.

@yojimbo274064400 & @tcltk Mail Search & Mail Status Bar display identical characters. And search returned 0 matches.

Something is not working right.

tcltk

@yojimbo274064400 ,

Thanks, in that case too many conditions was my guess, but from Janrif's answer above, it is not the answer either ! A problem in search settings : date, place ? ... But I don't want to interfere with both of you , I would put more mess than help.

yojimbo274064400

@tcltk,

Please continue to contribute / post; there is value to reading others thoughts on an issue.

yojimbo274064400

@janrif said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@janrif,

I cannot see why it would fail to be matched. If the failure occurs when using the Mail Search field then review what is shown in the status bar to confirm there are no unexpected additions or subtraction in the search term.

@yojimbo274064400 & @tcltk Mail Search & Mail Status Bar display identical characters. And search returned 0 matches.

Something is not working right.

What are you typing in the Mail Search field? For example, if I type:

from:^[email protected]

all matching message are returned in result.

janrif

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@janrif said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@janrif,

I cannot see why it would fail to be matched. If the failure occurs when using the Mail Search field then review what is shown in the status bar to confirm there are no unexpected additions or subtraction in the search term.

@yojimbo274064400 & @tcltk Mail Search & Mail Status Bar display identical characters. And search returned 0 matches.

Something is not working right.

What are you typing in the Mail Search field? For example, if I type:
from:^[email protected]
all matching message are returned in result.

I copy the entire eMail address & enter it into the Mail Search field

yojimbo274064400

@janrif,

This would explain why no matches are returned because Vivaldi is not matching against the From:fields header value (AFAICS):

⋮
From: Sill <[email protected]>
⋮

but instead its component parts, Email Address:

[email protected]

and its associated Display Name:

Sill

Thus Sill <[email protected]> return no matches but Sill [email protected] (without angle brackets) does return matches.

NB: when using Vivaldi to create filter against address fields:

From
To
Cc

two searches are created, the first against the Email Address and the other against the Display Name. Hopefully future refinements to search will consolidate this into a single statement.

janrif

@yojimbo274064400 Thank you. That seemed to work as expected. I appreciate your help. Have a nice day.

janrif

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

Thus Sill [email protected] return no matches but Sill [email protected] (without angle brackets) does return matches.

NB: when using Vivaldi to create filter against address fields:

From
To

@yojimbo274064400 What are the circumstances when I have to reformat my search criteria to get the proper results. I ask bc Vivaldi does reformat certain addresses successfully but not others as you have illustrated. TIA

yojimbo274064400

@janrif said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

@yojimbo274064400 said in This Mail Filter is Not Working. Why?:

Thus Sill [email protected] return no matches but Sill [email protected] (without angle brackets) does return matches.

NB: when using Vivaldi to create filter against address fields:

From
To

@yojimbo274064400 What are the circumstances when I have to reformat my search criteria to get the proper results. I ask bc Vivaldi does reformat certain addresses successfully but not others as you have illustrated. TIA

For the present, just review any auto-generated filter conditions when unexpected results are returned. For example, if sender's email address is:

John Smith <[email protected]>

and messages are to be filtered by its Display Name, John Smith, then:

auto-generates the search:

This may result in unexpected matches¹ given the following are true:

the From: header field's value contains a Display Name of John
Smith appears anywhere in message. For instance, a message with a sender of:

John Carter <[email protected]>

and with Smith appearing elsewhere in the message would be matched.

¹ search is case insensitive, i.e. any combination of lower and upper case characters making up search term will result in a match