Tabs loading only cached versions of web pages when being activated - always manual reload necessary

[vduser]

I don't know if this is a linux-only problem and I can't remember if this issue already existed in the first stable v7 release.
The version I currently use is v7.0.3495.14, but the issue occurred at least in the version prior as well, most probably the ones before, too.

I couldn't find any other report on this. Which doesn't mean there aren't any, it could just be that I didn't use the correct terms to find other reports.

When starting vivaldi, tabs only load the cached version of a web site, I always have to manually reload them to have them load the current version of a web page. This is true for the tab that is activated after starting vivaldi as well as the tabs I activate by clicking on them.

This is easy to recognize on pages that have webcam images, github, forums etc. where new / updated content / images are only shown after manually reloading the page.

I checked, I have "load images" set to "always". So that shouldn't be not the issue. Also, I couldn't find any relevant setting when searching for "cache" in settings or flags.

I have "lazy loading" of tabs enabled. I tried without, but then my default profile wouldn't load successfully but eventually crash, as apparently 32 GB of RAM where not enough for the amount of tabs / content vivaldi was trying to load. I didn't check with other profiles to see if that would have made even a difference for this issue, because it wouldn't be a viable solution for me anyway due to unusable for my default profile.

I understand that the cached content is loaded (on some pages logins are even still working) when vivaldi crashed in the previous session, but if run after normal close, I'd expect all tabs to load the current version of a web page when activated.

If there really is no other report about this issue, it's probably some setting I'm missing (or the good old "extension interference"). So any hint would be appreciated.

[mib2berlin]

@vduser
Hi, I can reproduce this since a while.
I have a workspace with about 10 news tabs, all German but not all show old content.
Welt.de
Ard.de
Tagesspiegel.de
never update, I have to do it manually.
But Taz.de does.
I always thought the pages does this not the browser as Chrome does the same thing.

[vduser]

Thanks for confirming.
With android version having the same issue and apparently chrome as well, it just might be an upstream issue.

Loading from cache is a good thing if there's no internet connection, but if there is one it should load the live version.

I just did some tests. It seems as if this behavior has been there since the very first v7. The last v6.9 available for download on download archive loads the active tab from the server rather than from cache.
Interestingly enough, v6.9, too, loads some pages from cache and needs manual refresh to load the live version of those pages.

I used the following urls for testing. Those are 3 different webcams. One is refreshing around every minute, one about every 3 minutes and one around every 15 minutes.
I opened them each as website with embedded webcam image and as the image directly. Curiously enough, v7 (I used the oldest available version from the archive) will not reload any of the tabs to current version, while v6.9 loads the current versions for the embedded images but not for the image-only tabs. But at least this distinct difference can be shown.

https://www.nps.gov/media/webcam/view.htm?id=CCAF675F-C0B9-826E-0A21779165AE01EF
https://www.nps.gov/webcams-grca/camera.jpg

https://www.nps.gov/media/webcam/view.htm?id=69687067-BE16-062D-2F789E22263AABA3
https://az511.com/map/Cctv/25--15

https://www.nps.gov/media/webcam/view.htm?id=69E0162D-0ED1-F68A-6B52A11F95FD867B
https://cdn.pixelcaster.com/public.pixelcaster.com/snapshots/grandcanyon-1/latest.jpg

Maybe it's Vivaldi v6.9 vs v7, or chromium v128 vs v130.

[mib2berlin]

@vduser
Hi, I checked this with Edge and it does the same, so a Chromium change.
No idea why the Chromium dev's does this, stupid without a setting to disable it.
Maybe the memory saver dose this but I have it disabled.

Cheers, mib

[vduser]

Thanks for checking with Edge and adding one more data points to the issue.

Unfortunately, I don't really know what terms to search for to see if anyone has complained yet at chromium...
The ones I used so far resulted in no relevant results...