Where are my passwords?
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@kmkwood I checked with XFCE and could see passwords in Vivaldi.
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@DoctorG said in Where are my passwords?:
vivaldi://password-manager/passwords
No. I see no passwords.
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@kmkwood Do you use the correct Vivaldi Profile (see Avatar icon), have you accidentally switched?
Had you copied your Vivaldi profile folder from one PC or Linux installation to another?
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@DoctorG said in Where are my passwords?:
@kmkwood Do you use the correct Vivaldi Profile (see Avatar icon)?
Had you copied your Vivaldi profile folder from one PC or Linux installation to another?
No. I started using vivaldi on this Linux computer. I now use vivaldi on a Windows computer, but I do not use sync, and I have not tried to share data between them.
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@kmkwood Had you tried to use Vivaldi Sync on your Linux to sync the passwords?
The Windows PC should sync them if it has enabled Vivaldi Sync. -
@DoctorG said in Where are my passwords?:
@kmkwood Do you use the correct Vivaldi Profile (see Avatar icon), have you accidentally switched?
Had you copied your Vivaldi profile folder from one PC or Linux installation to another?
No, I do not use Vivaldi Profile. Profile 1 is available for use
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@kmkwood The Windows PC with Vivaldi shows all the password you need?
On Windows PC you can openvivaldi://password-manager/settingsgo to Export passwords section and use Download file as CSV file.
To import on Linux Vivaldi openvivaldi://password-manager/settings, use Select file and select the CSV file. -
@DoctorG said in Where are my passwords?:
@kmkwood Had you tried to use Vivaldi Sync on your Linux to sync the passwords?
The Windows PC should sync them if it has enabled Vivaldi Sync.I'll be darned.... Yes, I can see my passwords in the Windows version of vivaldi.
Will syncing push my Linux-origin passwords over to the Windows version?
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@kmkwood said in Where are my passwords?:
Will syncing push my Linux-origin passwords over to the Windows version?
I suggest this to be on a safe side:
On Windows PC you can open vivaldi://password-manager/settings go to Export passwords section and use Download file as CSV file.
To import on Linux Vivaldi open vivaldi://password-manager/settings , use Select file and select the CSV file.
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@DoctorG said in Where are my passwords?:
@kmkwood said in Where are my passwords?:
Will syncing push my Linux-origin passwords over to the Windows version?
I suggest this to be on a safe side:
On Windows PC you can open vivaldi://password-manager/settings go to Export passwords section and use Download file as CSV file.
To import on Linux Vivaldi open vivaldi://password-manager/settings , use Select file and select the CSV file.
I do not use the same sites from my Windows computer as I do from my Linux computer. Will importing passwords wipe out those that already stored?
Do I need to create a profile in any of this?
Thank you.
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@kmkwood Import will overwrite logins, with Sync the same.
If you know all login/passwords (i hope you noted them or have external password manager) you have on your Linux, your can exit Vivaldi and delete the file
Login Datain profile folder.
Then start Vivaldi and login on the sites you need to save passwords
That will give you a clean login database, as your old on Linux was corrupted as i interpret. -
@kmkwood
Hi, the import is additive, a dialogue pop up if you want to skip existing passwords, for example.
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@mib2berlin said in Where are my passwords?:
Hi, the import is additive
Oh, i learned something now, never tried this. My PCs were all sync with same logins and did not need sync of passwords.
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@DoctorG
At some point you even get doubles but this happen not anymore. This was an import of snapshot passwords over stable one's.
@kmkwood
This was a profile without sync, sync is additive too.
Make a profile backup on Linux to be 100% save.
EDIT: Could you export passwords from the "broken" profile?
So to speak, you cant see the passwords but you can export them. -
@DoctorG said in Where are my passwords?:
@kmkwood Import will overwrite logins, with Sync the same.
If you know all login/passwords (i hope you noted them or have external password manager) you have on your Linux, your can exit Vivaldi and delete the file
Login Datain profile folder.
Then start Vivaldi and login on the sites you need to save passwords
That will give you a clean login database, as your old on Linux was corrupted as i interpret.Well, @DoctorG, no I don't have an external copy of those passwords. I don't even know how many there are. I did note some of them, but I don't know which ones I didn't record. Hence I am reluctant to trash anything I have. In fact that's why I joined this thread.
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@DoctorG
I may have discovered the root of my problem. I clicked on the '?' in password manager --- and it took me to google help for chrome!Yes, I used google chrome for a while, until the second time it trashed my bookmarks and passwords. That is when I started looking for alternatives, like vivaldi and opera.
If vivaldi is sharing any of the files left over from chrome that would explain a lot. Chrome was using gnome-keyring for passwords and it was a pain in addition to trashing my settings.
What would I have to do to reset my vivaldi setup? How much of what I have now can I export? Then do remove the ~/.config/vivaldi directory, and start up vivaldi again?
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@kmkwood Since I had no response from anyone on the post above, I conclude that I am lost. I tried to create a new profile, but when I did, the bookmarks and passwords I saved with my "no identity" vivaldi account are inaccessible.
Let this be a warning: do not use vivaldi without creating a named Profile. That probably applies to other Chrome-derived browsers as well. -
@kmkwood said in Where are my passwords?:
I may have discovered the root of my problem. I clicked on the '?' in password manager --- and it took me to google help for chrome!
The help ? is in password manager not for Vivaldi.
Had you opened in Vivaldi
chrome://password-manager/passwordsand checked if password are there?
@kmkwood said in Where are my passwords?:
I conclude that I am lost. I tried to create a new profile, but when I did, the bookmarks and passwords I saved with my "no identity" vivaldi account are inaccessible.
Let this be a warning: do not use vivaldi without creating a named Profile.Wat is a "no identity" vivaldi account? And " vivaldi without creating a named Profile"?
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@DoctorG After reading your reply, I opened chrome://password-manager/passwords. The passwords are not there.
I used the word "account" incorrectly. I meant "profile". So: the passwords I saved with my default, or no-identity, profile are inaccessible to a newly-created, named profile.
The default, no-identity profile is what is created by vivaldi if you do not explicitly create and name a profile.
Thank you for your continuing interest in my problem.
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@kmkwood When the passwords are inaccessible, then secure-key-storage GNOME or KWallet keyring got broken or you copied profile data between different Linux distributions or had done a restore which broke data or Ubuntu updated/libraries packages caused breaking data. Only a guess what could have happened.
There is a reason which users should make daily backups of their Linux home folder.—
But you said you have the same logins on your Windows PC?
If they are usable, you can export as CSV file, copy the CSV file to your Linux by USB stick, boot into Linux, delete in your folder.config/vivaldi/Default/the filesLogin Data*, start Vivaldi, open in Vivaldi's address fieldchrome://password-manager/settings, section Import Passwords and use Select file… to import the CSV file. That brinsg back the logins + passwords.
