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Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you
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@generousjedi said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
Everybody uses some kind of AI tool
Not true!
Coincidentally there's a poll on Mastadon right now which says it's less than 50%...
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@generousjedi, @DoctorG, in this aspect there are way different generative ChatBots, which train it's knowledge base with contents from others, which can cause copyright and privacy problems, and search engines which use AI, these use webcontent in real time on demand, showing answers with sources, corresponding on the user question. These are not more problematic as any other traditional search engine, naturally same as these, more or less private.
DDG AI, You.com and Andisearch are unproblematic to use, reliable and private.Anyway, as said in other moments, that Vivaldi won't include an AI by default, don't mean that the user can't use and include an AI app which fits best his needs, which is always more logically as use an default stock AI, due to dozends of very different AI for specific tasks, which fits way better the needs of every user.
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I am using Brave Search as my default search engine precisely because of its LLM/Ai integration called Leo.
In terms of coding (I have simple needs, mainly amending existing CSS) Leo generally is good, as is its command line advice.
Occasionally I will ask for, or get a spontaneous answer to, a more general question, the answer to which I treat with circumspection.
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@DoctorG said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
@mossman https://social.vivaldi.net/@[email protected]/114312848676089247
My post was blocked by the spam filter when I included the link... strange that you could send it
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I am primarily using AI to summarize and explain something I would like to know about. It would be useful if Vivaldi could do this.
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@earthginger, there are dozends of different AI out there for any type of tasks, you need one for summarize and explain, other need an AI for edit textes or to make music, edit images, videos, etc. all these with a very different quality which may serve to some users and not for others. So, apart of other reasons, it don't make sense to inbuild an stock AI in Vivaldi to follow the hype to inbuild an AI in everything, Its way more logical that the user search one of the AI which fits the best his needs and tasks.
Eg. I use as main search Andi since more than 2 years, which is the best for me (it outscored in an independent test ChatGPT, You, Perplexity and others). It also can summarize and explain in a very reliable way, apart with 100% privacy. Try ithttps://andisearch.com/?query=%sor take a look here and use one of the over 7000 existing different AI tools.
https://www.futuretools.io
https://www.futurepedia.io/ai-tools
https://dang.ai
https://huggingface.co/spaces -
@Granite1 said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
I am using Brave Search as my default search engine
Ditto. I've generally found it to be good and accurate, especially just for summarisation, and you can follow the links if required.
Strangely, I don't find it so good when used as standalone though, just when integrated with search.
@earthginger said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
I am primarily using AI to summarize and explain something I would like to know about. It would be useful if Vivaldi could do this.
You could just add Brave Search as a shortcut and temporarily invoke it to do summaries.
@Catweazle btw, do you know what's happened to Phind? Whenever I try it, from any browser, logged in or not, I just keep getting "inference service is unavailable." So I've given up on it now. It used to be one of my top go-to chats.
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@wintercoast said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
Strangely, I don't find it so good when used as standalone though, just when integrated with search.
Not sure what you mean. By "it" do you mean Brave?
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@Granite1 said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
Not sure what you mean. By "it" do you mean Brave?
Leo, e.g., if I just use Leo directly within the Brave browser. Though admittedly I only tried it in once or twice.
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@wintercoast said in Vivaldi won't allow a machine to lie to you:
Leo, e.g., if I just use Leo directly within the Brave browser.
Got it. I never use Leo in the sidebar; I use Leo in the main Brave Search page. If Leo does not answer upfront you can click the little star to get an answer.
I am using Leo more and more; I find it particularly useful for things like CSS, Linux command line commands, and more. It saves a lot of time. It also allows me to bypass forums, like e.g. for EndeavourOS, more often and gives me confidence I can fix a lot on my own. Heck, I even feel I could install and run Arch if I wanted/needed to.
Sure, sometimes the answer is bunk or does not have the result needed, but overall I am positive towards it.
Having said that, 1 such bot I find even better is Perplexity. Its answers are more complete.
