Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi
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@nayamashidesu Yes, I have the desktop app.
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Nooo, why not as an extension? I would really like to see a more modular Vivaldi and not as a monolithic application.
Please make a plain vanilla browser, that is just a browser. One that I then can install mail, notes, VPN etc., if we need it. Also be aware that Proton log and monitor your activities. -
@KennethJensen said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Nooo, why not as an extension?
Well, Proton VPN is an extension, but I don’t think Vivaldi needs this. Maybe it is part of the policy of building a private and secure browser, or is more about making revenue from a new partner.
Vivaldi will never be just a browser. It started life after Opera Presto was bought up by a Chinese company. Opera also had mail, notes, feeds, etc., which is why we liked it. Without these features, and the high degree of customisability it would be just another browser with no reason to choose it over Chrome, Brave, Firefox, etc.
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@KennethJensen I'd like to correct that Proton VPN has a no logs policy. Please see https://protonvpn.com/blog/no-logs-audit
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@KennethJensen The Proton VPN quite literally is an extension. If you accidentally enabled it, you can find it on the extensions page and remove it like any other extension.
Please make a plain vanilla browser
That likely isn't something that Vivaldi would ever do. Vivaldi's niche is being a highly customizable and powerful browser. Removing those things goes against Vivaldi's main reason for existing.
The good news is that if you want a cut down plain version of Vivaldi, you can already find that available as Chromium (or Ungoogled Chromium).
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@Pesala said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Vivaldi will never be just a browser. It started life after Opera Presto was bought up by a Chinese company. Opera also had mail, notes, feeds, etc., which is why we liked it. Without these features, and the high degree of customisability it would be just another browser with no reason to choose it over Chrome, Brave, Firefox, etc.
Agreeing with this part
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@Pesala yes I know it came out of Opera and thank god it was created. I like the customizable UI too. But I would like that it was more modular. That it was not just a feature toggle switch (thank you Vivaldi for adding that).
You say if it was plain vanilla browser (of cause with sync of bookmarks, tabs, workspaces) it will be like Chrome, Brave, Firefox. But it will not. Chrome have sync to Google and they harvest data, Brave have their ads, crypto and Firefox can't even do PWA.
A modular browser that is plain with sync does not exist. I'm not saying Vivaldi should drop their browser as it is. Just that there is also a "scraped" one, where we can install extensions we want like VPN, Adblockers, Mail client and any other extension not directly related to browsing.
As a full stack developer and solution architect I consider creating such a browser forked of Chromium. It's just so much work and I have little time right now
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@superiorclam thank you for that.
I read this and got concerned:
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@KennethJensen said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
Proton VPN is not just an extension. It is built into Vivaldi. But there is a feature toggle switch (then you for that Vivaldi), so it can be turned off.
The extent in which Proton VPN is built into Vivaldi is that there is a button on the toolbar that installs the extension and you can use a Vivaldi account to sign in rather than needing to create a Proton account.
Other than that, it is a normal extension. If you enabled it, you can see the extension on the
vivaldi://extensionspage with all the other extensions.
As for things like mail, calendar, and feeds, they don't really impact anything, if they aren't enabled, other than a bit more storage space for the inactive code.
And for the ad blocker, with the upcoming end of manifest V2 support, the built in ad blocker is going to become more important for many people. It still could use some support for more filter rule syntaxes, but it is getting better.
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@nomadic thank you, I did not see it was an extension too.
I like Vivaldi as a browser and their UI, but don't need e.g. a mail client, rss feed, notes or their adblocker built in. It would be great if they were extensions or Vivaldi plug-ins you could install if needed. Then their browser could be more modular and slim, depending on what you need in your browser.
I still want them to do their Vivaldi browser as it is. I would just love to see a Vanilla Vivaldi browser too with their awesome UI and sync of bookmarks, tabs and workspaces
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@Raoh1990 Colors in the icons couldn't be theme safe.
Just VPN if enabled , and crossed VPN when disabled.
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@KennethJensen said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:
but don't need e.g. a mail client, rss feed, notes or their adblocker built in
I DO need them.
I really need them, as I trust V more than other software -
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@rashmik And ah, man oh man, if you use the Vivaldi account to get a subscription, you will have a surprise!
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