Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi

[CummingCowGirl]

@Pesala said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

@Zalex108 That is not the point. I just wanted to show that clicking the button installed and enabled the VPN extension. After clicking that button, users have to take positive steps to disable or remove the extension, which is not a good default policy.

I suggest removing the button, and doing everything in Settings, Privacy and Security. Install, Enable, Disable, and uninstall.

Have to actually agree, but give dropdown options. I see not wanting something the second you click on it it installs. It's a HUGE reason I left WindBLOWS in the dust long ago. Click the button and get a dropdown asking:

Install
Install And Enable
Remove

Now as for making this a surprise by bypassing beta testing it in Snapshot not the brightest idea. Could of saved so many headaches.

[DoctorG]

The vpn button should have a tooltip "Install Proton VPN" to make clear for users what happens.
Then they will not get a unwanted feature added if they do not click.

[dalinar]

I'm happy the way it is done, I wouldn't have noticed it it wasn't on my toolbar.

If I didn't want it, I would just have removed it. But I like it so I'm keeping it.

that said, I had assume it was something built into vivladi, I didn't even realize it was an extension. I just thought it was a new feature. I mean where I first saw it.

And I'm checking it out in its pristine state on one of the profiles I haven't use the VPN on yet, and the tooltip just says "Proton VPN". There's no way I would have been able to have known that nothing was yet installed until you click it .. not that I personally care, just pointing that out

[dalinar]

@DoctorG not on my profiles. maybe I have an older version, I don't know . I have 7.3.3635.4 (Stable channel) (64-bit)

tooltip just says "Proton VPN" even if i have never clicked the button yet, I have multiple profiles so I mean on a profile that I have never used Proton VPN on. It also has a big tab graphic open talking about Proton VPN when you open the profile.

[DoctorG]

@dalinar said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

tooltip just says "Proton VPN"

Sorry, i fear my english was so bad!?
My post was a wish, how tooltip should be in a better way.

[dalinar]

@DoctorG well, I wouldn't say "bad" but ambiguous. Now that I know the intent behind what you wrote I can read it the way you intended, not the default way I read it as "it's supposed to be there" ("should" is causing the ambiguity)

[ThePfromtheO]

@Raoh1990 No, it changes. Look:
Disconnected:
Connected:
Maybe you are using some custom icons?

[Zalex108]

@Pesala

What I've just seen few hours ago, is that leaving the icon on the toolbar, without previously logging in to the VPN, the "can not Connect" message appears when you restart.

The setting to not auto connect is not reachable.

The only option seems to remove the toolbar icon.

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I guess V Team expects users to click and see what's that New Feature.

This seems better to catch the attention by default in the first & next launch.

Maybe a short explanation and an option to choose whether test it or not when click it, instead of install the extension right away would be good too.

If the option is just in the settings, many people will ask about a Vivaldi VPN, and where to find it.

[Nekomajin]

@DoctorG
A tooltip alone is not enough.

[ThePfromtheO]

@TyrionTargaryen I'm exactly the opposite
Why not trying this, what could it break? Anyway, most probably I will be able to repair this, no?

[dalinar]

@ThePfromtheO it breaks my head that they offer such a great product for free

[ThePfromtheO]

@dalinar You speak about the VPN, right?
... But if you don't pay, you can only let it auto-connect you, not choose the server on your own. And that is not always the best idea. For example, today, if I click "Connect", it connects me to the server in my country, which is stupid, you understand. If I had upgraded my account, I would have been able to choose what server I wanted. The extension is currently almost unusable for me until it chooses another server based on its speed.
Plus, there are features you can't access without upgrading your plan:

I especially consider the "Split Tunelling" feature an amazing one, and this is also what might convince others to pay for it.

[dalinar]

@ThePfromtheO yeah, VPN - I get 420mbps on a free VPN (Amsterdam server). it's great. Not sure how fast it could go, that's my connection speed limiting it.

[ThePfromtheO]

@dalinar Yesterday, I was connected to Amsterdam, but now, as I told you, I have the server in my country. So I can't hide my IP. I would use the VPN app, but you can't use more than one device at the same time. And my mobile needs the VPN more than my PC, in my opinion.

[DoctorG]

Interesting proton VPN: it connects on Windows to Amsterdam (NL) and on Linux to New York (USA).

[TyrionTargaryen]

@ThePfromtheO said in Privacy Without Compromise: Proton VPN is Now Built Into Vivaldi:

@TyrionTargaryen I'm exactly the opposite
Why not trying this, what could it break? Anyway, most probably I will be able to repair this, no?

I used to be like that, but now I'm older and have less free time to do stuff. I just want things to stay still for a little while. 🫠

[Raoh1990]

@ThePfromtheO mine does the same switch but with a grey gradient. I am not using any custom icon set and I am on linux mint and cachy os.

[ThePfromtheO]

@Raoh1990 For me, with any themes, if the toolbar has a dark color, the icon fills with white colour, while if the toolbar has a light colour, the icon fills with black. I am on Ubuntu 24.10 GNOME.
I don't know what your problem could be. Maybe the theme affects this. Try Vivaldi's default theme and see if this still happens. If the problem doesn't change, you could ask @DoctorG, @nomadic, or anyone else you think would help you. Especially for the last one, @nomadic, I see that people appreciate him, especially regarding his skills in GUI modifications.

[Raoh1990]

@ThePfromtheO thanks for the reply, at the end this is not a big issue - it would just have been better if filled with green. The important thing is that a lot of people are getting a free and reliable vpn!

[ThePfromtheO]

@Raoh1990 To be honest, I would like it to remain as it is for me. Green would not fit for all the themes, you know.