Permanent Cookies

[AllanH]

Even if all cookies are deleted, every time Vivaldi is started, wikipedia.org and vivaldi.com cookies are created again.
Did this begin with v7.2?

[DoctorG]

@AllanH That are the cookies of your default webpanels.

[AllanH]

@DoctorG OK, thanks.
I don't use webpanels that much. What determines which webpanel is the default?

[DoctorG]

@AllanH Vivaldi brings website Help, Wikipedia and Vivaldi Social by default after installed.
If you do not need these panels just remove them by contextmenu over webpanel's button.

[jsheridan]

@DoctorG I currently have 78 permanent cookies from a wide range of sites. I don't use web panels.

[DoctorG]

@jsheridan Yes, but AllanH asked only for Wikipedia and Vivaldi site.

Your cookies are permanent even if you delete them in Settings → Privacy → Saved Cookies and restart Vivaldi?

Have you example of such URL where cookies stay permanent after deleting them?

[jsheridan]

@DoctorG

[jsheridan]

@DoctorG Yes, the cookies are permanent after deletion and restart.

[jsheridan]

@DoctorG Any comments on this issue ? Thanks.

[DoctorG]

@jsheridan You listed domains of cookies.
But which URL does create such permanent cookie?
I like to test.

And which Vivaldi version do you use?

[jsheridan]

@DoctorG Not sure what you mean with the URL question.

Vivaldi 7.3.3635.7 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision e0466195268aad4e277ebc1166bdcc881ed724f6
OS Windows 11 Version 23H2 (Build 22631.5126)
JavaScript V8 13.4.114.21
User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/134.0.0.0 Safari/537.36

[DoctorG]

@jsheridan 7.3.3635.7 Win 11 23H2
I visited reef.com and outdoorresearch.com and shop.proton.me, delete the cookies of these domains and restarted.
Such permanent cookies like yours are not existent for me.

[yojimbo274064400]

By default options:

• Lazy Load Restored Tabs
• Always Load Pinned Tabs

are selected under Settings > General, section Startup with.  Can you confirm this is still the case for your settings:

After deleting cookies and restarting Vivaldi could any of the following be the cause for the cookies being created again?

• current active tab
• pinned tabs

[jsheridan]

@yojimbo274064400

The default options for the tabs are checked.

A few of the cookies are from current active or pinned tabs. Most are not.

I deleted all saved cookies. It said "Vivaldi currently stores 0 cookie entries from 0 domains." After I rebooted it said 84 cookies from 29 domains.

[DoctorG]

If you have pinned tabs and web panels, the cookies of such sites will reappear as such pages load after a while.

@jsheridan Could be the cookies database is broken.

Open Vivaldi menu → About
Note or copy profile path in about page
Exit Vivaldi
Open the path in Windows Explorer
Delete the file Cookies
Start Vivaldi

[jsheridan]

@DoctorG I currently have 84 cookies from 29 domains.

[Pathduck]

@jsheridan Try deleting all those files - while the browser is closed. These files are safe to delete (will delete your cookies).

But I doubt it helps, and I believe this is a bug.
I have reported it as:
VB-116566 Delete All Cookies button does not delete all cookies (partitioned)

Note that using the Delete Browsing Data works, but the Delete All Cookies button in settings does NOT. So that's a workaround:
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/delete-browsing-data/

My theory is that these are partitioned third-party cookies, a nasty Google invention:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Privacy/Guides/Privacy_sandbox/Partitioned_cookies

[jsheridan]

@Pathduck Thanks. Yes, Google is very likely the culprit.