More Search Engine Options in Address bar

[BoneTone]

@baris-sehri said in More Search Engine Options in Address bar:

I don't know what it is in windows for quick commands

I've customized the keyboard shortcuts to the point I don't remember what the defaults are anymore. I actually went and opened a new user profile in Vivaldi to create a note with all the defaults to make it easier to help other people on this forum. My keyboard is a bit different than what most people are used to seeing, and I modify its firmware to define what all the keys do, on several layers, and make ample use of dual function keys (like f when tapped but shift when held) so I can hit all the modifiers without leaving the home row. I've also got some keys that are multiple modifiers like Ctrl-Shift, or the so-called Hyper (Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Win/Cmd) and Meh (Ctrl-Alt-Shift). Those make hitting multiply modified shortcuts much easier since you're only using 2 keys instead of 4 or 5. Quick Commands for me is, man I'm not certain because I rarely use them, but Ctrl-Q I believe. I hate having a destructive (quit) shortcut next to something as commonly used as close tab (Ctrl-W), so I repurposed Q for Quick commands. It's on a pinky because it's s rarely used action.

I avoid using mouse as much as possible especially when I use keyboard. whatever I do I expect to complete it with only the keyboard or mouse.

There's a lot of power to be found in the combination of mouse and keyboard, hence it's common use in gaming. I agree that it should be easy to do your work only with the keyboard as well as only with the mouse -- e.g. when I'm typing a lot of text I control things through the keyboard, but when sitting back and surfing I do everything with the mouse. This should not be to the exclusion of using both together however; it should be just as easy, if not easier, to do things when using two tools instead of just one. You just need to have the necessary keyboard controls on the opposite hand that you mouse with. Being able to throw keyboard shortcuts while mousing -- mmmmm, productivity!

[baris.sehri]

I don't remember what the defaults are anymore.

you can see keyboard shortcuts in here if you like...

I hate having a destructive (quit) shortcut next to something ...

in settings / tab handling you can choose don't close window with last tab also there's an option in general settings under exit section show quit confirmation dialog if it works for you...

[Pesala]

@baris-sehri said in More Search Engine Options in Address bar:

you can see keyboard shortcuts in here if you like...

The cheat sheet shows the assigned shortcuts, not the defaults.

[baris.sehri]

@Pesala you mean assigned by vivaldi? and when you mean defaults you mean chromium defaults?

[Pesala]

@baris-sehri I mean assigned by the user.

[BoneTone]

@baris-sehri said in More Search Engine Options in Address bar:

you can see keyboard shortcuts in here if you like...

That image is not accurate. They have Extensions listed as "Ctrl", just Ctrl. It's Ctrl-Shift-E. History is wrong too, it's missing Developer Tools Console, it only lists 1 shortcut per action, while many have multiple default shortcuts, Page Zoom In and Page Zoom Reset each have 5 actually. And it's missing numerous other actions that have default keyboard shortcuts.

But, I've got a tab now in the spreadsheet that I use for tracking my own shortcut definitions. So it's easy for me to pull the defaults from that when needed.

in settings / tab handling you can choose don't close window with last tab also there's an option in general settings under exit section show quit confirmation dialog if it works for you...

Yeah, I've got that setting enabled, but you that's not what I'm talking about. I don't like having a command like quit (commonly assigned the shortcut Ctrl-Q) next to a command like close tab (Ctrl-W), hence Ctrl-Q being assigned to Quick commands, you know, for the Q mnemonic. Additionally, there can be bugs, like when canceling a close window or quit command disables the confirmation setting. But the statement was also more generic than that, I don't like destructive actions assigned keyboard shortcuts that put them next to commonly used shortcuts, quit just being an example because of its frequent assignment to Ctrl-Q, and Ctrl-W being the frequently used close window. The same scenario plays out with other shortcuts¹ and other apps.

¹ Close other, close all to the left, untile tabs, etc. Even History Back can be destructive on sites where you're filling in form data.

[BoneTone]

@baris-sehri said in More Search Engine Options in Address bar:

@Pesala you mean assigned by vivaldi? and when you mean defaults you mean chromium defaults?

No, currently assigned, whether it's the unmodified defaults, or changes the user made, the cheat sheet shows what shortcuts currently work in that instance of Vivaldi.

Also, we mean the Vivaldi defaults. Vivaldi has shortcuts that don't even make sense in Chromium.

PS - I fear we've strayed significantly off topic now. If anyone would like to continue discussing keyboard shortcuts, you can tag me in a new thread if you want me to see it.

[yashpalgoyal1304]

modification of firefox model (inspired from opera (mini?) browser for android) suggested at: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36585

[yashpalgoyal1304]

@Pesala as i said here https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/383803 i cant use that option due to a pesky bug

[LonM]

Vivaldi 7.2 has changed the way the address bar offers suggestions. If you still feel there is a missing feature, you can create a new request