Mouse Gestures on M3 Mac

jwalzer

So, I've waited for a couple of updates now, if it will come back working, but so far no luck.

It seems that for a couple of months, for me Mouse gestures on the trackpad are not working. Even though I have made sure they are activated in the settings (and even doing the turn off and on dance) the only thing that happens, when I activate the secondary click and hold down, the context menu opens immediatly, and I cannot draw my gesture.

I have checke also with another M2 Mac but its the same.
Systen is the latest Sequioa.

As I'm not finding any other reports on that I'm assuming I'm the only one with the issue, but its unclear to me, where that comes from.

So maybe someone can help me to track that down and find a reason, or somebody tell me, I'm not the only one ... please

xyzzy

I just tested the Vivaldi 7.1 RC1 build with my M1 MacBook Air and mouse gestures work fine for me. I press the Option key, perform the gesture on the trackpad, release the Option key, and the gesture's action gets performed.

I also tested with a Magic Mouse, and Mouse Gestures work fine for me both with and without the "Perform Gestures with Option Key" option enabled.

Are you running a standard Vivaldi installation or have you applied some of your own custom mods?

xyzzy

The above test was done with a new/clean install and using the default mouse gestures.

I also created a custom gesture and that works fine too, with the trackpad and with the Magic Mouse.

I also tested the case of replacing a default gesture with a custom gesture, and that also works fine for me.

jwalzer

@xyzzy Thanx for trying to verify.
I'm on 7.1.3570.39 (Stable channel) (arm64) and just tested with a completely new empty profile (/Applications/Vivaldi.app/Contents/MacOS/vivaldi --user-data-dir=~/VivaldiNewProfile)

And still the behaviour is the same for me.

So the question is, if there is a specific MacOS setting that I might have enabled, that is breaking this feature.

To my knowledge there is nothing special here that should influence this. Only thing, dunno if it matters, is that I put my secondary click at the thumb, which means bottom left corner of the trackpad.

What wonders me most, is, that I'm sure I have not tweaked any of these settings, since it worked before, but suddenly, after an vivaldi update it stopped.

I have used opera gestures 25y ago and on macOS they're already in my muscular brain, so I really would like to have them back, and I really would like to identify where the issue comes from ...

jwalzer

Hah! I just tried, setting the Secondary click in MacOS back to the default behaviour of a "two finger tap" and the gestures work again.
Setting it back to my preferred setting of "tap bottom left corner" it breaks again.

So, in Summary, Vivaldi has changed its behaviour on how to read the secondary click in MacOS and now seems only to detect, if the OS is set to "two finger tap".

I really wonder if this would be worth a bug report and some look into, or if I'm the only lonely user with such an awkward setting ...

ryofurue

@jwalzer said in Mouse Gestures on M3 Mac:

I really wonder if this would be worth a bug report and some look into, or if I'm the only lonely user with such an awkward setting ...

If it's reproducible, it's always worth submitting a report, I think. It will remain in the developers' bug tracker and who knows some of the developers may fix it.

By the way, I'm interested in tapping corners. I didn't know such features existed.

jwalzer

@ryofurue said in Mouse Gestures on M3 Mac:

By the way, I'm interested in tapping corners. I didn't know such features existed.

Yeah, its an MacOS feture, which I think on a trackpad much better resembles the "Right-Mouse-Button"-Secondary click that you are used to with a mouse.

You can configure in MacOS how you want the sec. click activated. (see screenshot)

I personally find the "two finger tap" absolutely non-intuitive and conflicting with other 2-finger gestures.
The "Bottom Left Corner" option is optimal for my usecase and really quickly grows into the muscle memory.

I didn't even expect any problems, because it worked from the beginning with vivaldi gestures. But really some months/versions ago something changed in vivaldi and it stopped working ...

what a pity...