Choosing the right search engine – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3570.29

AltCode

@derDay This is on macOS, and I have no doubt this is only affecting it. It's why I mentioned Sparkle, the update framework used by Vivaldi to update on macOS (and nowhere else).

3dvs

@AltCode suppose one can always do the easier one. Help >Vivaldi welcome tour.

jacekn

if only there would be a search engine that gives a good results all the time

Google is ad board right now, and most alternatives completely can't handle non-english searches, giving super poor results or none at all.

Searching via ChatGPT sounded like a stupid idea, but I actually use that often when I need an INFORMATION (that is not news-type information). Google is when I need a WEBSITE.

Pathduck

The new onboarding is OK, and I like how it doesn't try to force Mail/RSS down the user's throat like the old one. A lot of new users follow through and enable Mail for their Vivaldi account, even though they have no intention of using it or even remember it was there. Then they get high CPU caused by the Mail/RSS reader...

However, I would really like it to not be such invasive full-screen as it is.
It's not good. It's like forcing the user to go through the process. And new users don't understand they can just use Ctrl+W to close the full-screen tab, which is what I do to skip the whole thing.

There's a reason most modern installer setups don't go the full-screen like they used to - it's just confusing to users and bad practice.

nutcracker

Does "help->check for updates" work for you in this version?

helsten2

@nutcracker: Yes (Win10x64)

g_bartsch

As always, thank you for the browser and the choice. I search with DuckDuckGo so hope it benefits you.

iAN CooG

@jsosmd said in Choosing the right search engine – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3570.29:

I cannot imagine why someone would like to interrupt what they were doing and jump around to another Workspace!

You probably don't work in a crowded office as a programmer with dozen of requests of urgent scripts or proceures fix asked continuously.
Also, voluntarily pausing a job to enjoy your coffee watching the news, leaving the workspace/tabs you're using for work. etc

sjudenim

@Pathduck said in Choosing the right search engine – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3570.29:

The new onboarding is OK, and I like how it doesn't try to force Mail/RSS down the user's throat like the old one. A lot of new users follow through and enable Mail for their Vivaldi account, even though they have no intention of using it or even remember it was there. Then they get high CPU caused by the Mail/RSS reader...

However, I would really like it to not be such invasive full-screen as it is.
It's not good. It's like forcing the user to go through the process. And new users don't understand they can just use Ctrl+W to close the full-screen tab, which is what I do to skip the whole thing.

There's a reason most modern installer setups don't go the full-screen like they used to - it's just confusing to users and bad practice.

I like the looks of the new onboarding and don't find it intrusive at all. It's not really full-screen either, it's just a maximized window, the window control buttons are still visible as is my taskbar.

What I would change though is having Workspaces on by default. I think that should be another option included in the onboarding so it can give a brief summary as to what it is

AltCode

@Ruarí I think I may have figured out why the changelog stopped appearing in the sparkle update window for the snapshot updates.

The appcast for the snapshot stream is now using <sparkle:fullReleaseNotesLink>, whereas before it used the similarly named <sparkle:releaseNotesLink>. Meanwhile, as of writing this, the appcast for the stable stream still uses the latter.

Sparkle's documentation indicates that embedded release notes are only shown if a <sparkle:releaseNotesLink> element or a <description> element is present, hence why changelogs are still shown for the stable stream, but not the snapshot stream.

AltCode

@derDay Oh, I had no idea WinSparkle was a thing, which is heavily inspired by Sparkle, but is in no way maintained by the Sparkle Project.

I'm very sorry if I sounded dismissive in my previous post. In hidsight, it was rather prudent of me to assume this could only affect Vivaldi on macOS, since this could have technically affected Windows as well if its appcast had received the same changes I mention here.

3dvs

@AltCode so vivaldi for windows doesn't use winsparkle??

AltCode

@3dvs It does.

cleuton4k

When will the autoplay bug be fixed?

supermurs

Thank you for the new version!

My search engine is DuckDuckGo, took a little bit of time to adjust, but it is working pretty well now.

bittin

Just translated this snapshot to Swedish

Turandot

@jsosmd: I am still of the same opinion as jsosmd and still find it just as annoying. Please Vivaldi team, change this or make it an option.

Ruan17

the session part is not synchronizing between browsers,

I'm using vivaldi and vivaldi snapshot

marcvanbreemen

iAN CooG

@marcvanbreemen said in Choosing the right search engine – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3570.29:

That's your point of view?