Alternatives to uBO

hobilke

@Catweazle Thanx - another point arose and I could solve it:

I use "portainer" on a Synology. "Upgrade to Pro-Version" is displayed on the management website. uBlock Origin helped to create a filter string I could use.

Is there a similar tool within Vivaldi? If not would be a nice enhancement.

Cheers
Harry

Granite1

@Stardust:

When/if uBO is not going to work in Vivaldi, Firefox+uBO will do most of my browsing instead.

Try Zen browser, you might well become zen.

Granite1

@Catweazle:

Vivaldi blocker test

Where can I test Vivaldi blocker?

maximvasiljev

@Granite1
try this https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html

Gregor

@Granite1 said in Good Bye to Vivaldi:

Where can I test Vivaldi blocker?

On websites with lot of trackers and ads. I have already tested this way and noticed that Vivaldi does not perform as well as uBlock despite using the same filter lists.

Granite1

@maximvasiljev):

try this https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html

Many thanks, Maxim.

mib2berlin

Hi, Vivaldi with one custom list added:

uBlock reach 99% but you can streamline Vivaldi's to get there, to lazy to do, 97% is OK for me.

Cheers, mib

Granite1

@Gregor:

I have already tested this way and noticed that Vivaldi does not perform as well as uBlock despite using the same filter lists.

I have been using Vivaldi for 3 months with various tracker & ad blocking extensions. I only discovered the details of its in-built settings.

So, I have tuned those settings and disabled extensions. I'll wait to see the results over the next few days.

I used uBO quite a few years but never got over the frustration of having to tweak. Perhaps I was not using it correctly.

maximvasiljev

I also want to remind everyone that you can additionally use ads filtering at the DNS level via https://dnsforge.de / https://nextdns.io / https://adguard-dns.io

Catweazle

@mib2berlin, same for me, not so good as uBO, but certainly good enough. I can get 100%, but then some webs don't work as they should (buttons, textfields or links which don't work, things like that)

Gregor

I have refined the filter lists (18 enabled lists for trackers and ads) and the effectiveness in Vivaldi is at the same level to that in uB - https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html 99%, https://adblock-tester.com 100%

Stardust

@Granite1 said in Good Bye to Vivaldi:

@Stardust:

When/if uBO is not going to work in Vivaldi, Firefox+uBO will do most of my browsing instead.

Try Zen browser, you might well become zen.

I tried it. It doesn't support horizontal tabs at all!
For us Horizontallers it a major drawback!

Granite1

@Stardust:

It doesn't support horizontal tabs at a

Yes, but many people have requested it and the dev has said it will come.

Have patience and faith.

Gregor

Is Zen browser better than Vivaldi in blocking ads/trackers? Did you compare it with https://d3ward.github.io/toolz/adblock.html and https://adblock-tester.com?

maximvasiljev

@Gregor
of course yes. Zen browser is Firefox-based and can use uBlock Origin with full power (manifest v2)

Gregor

@maximvasiljev If Zen's adblocking is based only on uBlock Origin then probably its abilities/effectiveness is the same/similar to Vivaldi, with the same filters (as I tested it above).

Stardust

@Granite1 said in Good Bye to Vivaldi:

@Stardust:

It doesn't support horizontal tabs at a

Yes, but many people have requested it and the dev has said it will come.

Have patience and faith.

Not having horizontal tabs to this moment make me questioning zen project vision..

Granite1

@Stardust said in Good Bye to Vivaldi:

Not having horizontal tabs to this moment make me questioning zen project vision..

I don't see anything wrong with that vision. If I were using Zen I could not care less about horizontal tabs. When I used Brave I only used verticals, now that I am using Vivaldi I only use verticals. In fact, I cannot understand how anyone would prefer horizontals.

If I am not mistaken vertical tabs are new compared to horizontals, which were original. But the fact that verticals have not gone away means plenty of users are interested.

Having said all that, everyone has their preference, but to judge a vision on the basis of a temporarily lacking feature is over the top. Vivaldi lacks features, some of which users have clamored for for years, yet the devs have not picked it up. Lack of vision? Nope.

Stardust

@Granite1 said in Good Bye to Vivaldi:

Having said all that, everyone has their preference, but to judge a vision on the basis of a temporarily lacking feature is over the top. Vivaldi lacks features, some of which users have clamored for for years, yet the devs have not picked it up. Lack of vision? Nope.

Tabs placement is the most important part of browser experience. Most users are Horizontallers. Shipping a new browser without even an option of horizontal tabs is a lack of vision to me.

Granite1

@Stardust:

Shipping a new browser without even an option of horizontal tabs is a lack of vision to me.

The browser just got out of alpha and is now in beta. So, it is not even a full, stable product yet. Judging it as lacking vision is shortsighted.

Anyhow, it does not matter, you are focused on horizontal tabs so none of the other features matter.

I have no axe to grind as I am not using the browser. I use Vivaldi as my main browser, which is superior in customizability, while Brave, though as customizable, is my rock solid back-up