Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers

Stardust

@Catweazle interesting, that uBlock Origin is actually older than Vivaldi.

uBlock Origin Initial release date: June 23, 2014

Vivaldi Initial release date: January 27, 2015

iqaluit

@barbudo2005 I installed AdGuard, found good lifetime deal and I am comfortable with it. It is as powerful as uBlock as a content and ad blocker. But I don't use the extension, I installed in windows and works seamlessly. I recommend.

Catweazle

@Stardust, yes, nothing against uBO, but it's not the center of the Mv3 problem, it's the web hegemony of Google, which can be changed with using another browser because of uBO.
Mv3 will be generally the new standart for ALL browsers easier or later, because the devs won't work on 2 different extension for Mv2 and Mv3 indefinitely. Mv2 will disappear, same as Mv1 with Chrome 18 in the past also for all others. Law of the market, made by a monopoly. Changing to Firefox/Mozilla only reforce the Google domain, becaus, despite the engine depends way more on Google than Vivaldi.

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Stardust

@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

Mv3 will be generally the new standart for ALL browsers easier or later, because the devs won't work on 2 different extension for Mv2 and Mv3 indefinitely. Mv2 will disappear, same as Mv1 with Chrome 18 in the past also for all others.

We will see when/if it will disappear. Currently there is no plan to abandon MV2 by Mozilla and uBO MV2 is going to be maintained for Firefox.

@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

Changing to Firefox/Mozilla only reforce the Google domain, becaus, despite the engine depends way more on Google than Vivaldi.

Having non-chromium engine is a good thing. We don't know when and how Google will try to poison Firefox engine, but good thing there are few other engines in development at the moment.

uBO MV2 forever!

Catweazle

@Stardust, there even Google devs working on FF. Enough poison? Well, FF (or better some forks) is still the best alternative respect other browsers, but it's risky to overestimate it.

Stardust

@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

there even Google devs working on FF. Enough poison?

Who exactly?

Well, FF (or better some forks) is still the best alternative respect other browsers, but it's risky to overestimate it.

Fight is never easy!

Catweazle

@Stardust, https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-brings-microsoft-google-w3c-samsung-together-create-cross-browser-documentation-mdn/

Stardust

@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

@Stardust, https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/mozilla-brings-microsoft-google-w3c-samsung-together-create-cross-browser-documentation-mdn/

that blog post is very old, from 2017, so probably those people (Board Members) are even no longer working there. Also it sounds a bit different than your phrase "there even Google devs working on FF"

Catweazle

@Stardust, MDN is still active, also it's collaborators from all big companies. But if you trust these alliance of Mozilla, it's OK, but I understand with working for a better and free internet someting different.

Stardust

@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

@Stardust, MDN is still active, also it's collaborators from all big companies. But if you trust these alliance of Mozilla, it's OK, but I understand with working for a better and free internet someting different.

Mozilla lost my remaining trust after they quietly added PPI ads tracking in Firefox
I only trust uBO now!

shojivrstrinova8

so when this will be applied on vivaldi?

DoctorG

@shojivrstrinova8 We do not give a timeline for changes and new features.

shojivrstrinova8

@DoctorG alright hope it wont affect vivaldi so much

DoctorG

@shojivrstrinova8 IT will affect some older extensions, not Vivaldi itself.

barbudo2005

AdGuard Browser Extension 5.0.178
Release date: December 24, 2024

Small but important hotfix.

Changelog:

Changed

Remade JS rules injections in MV3:

Use chrome.scripting API for injecting functions for script rules from the pre-built filters.
Use script tag injection only for script rules manually added by users — rules from User rules and Custom filters.

Does anyone know the difference between the two methods?

iqaluit

@barbudo2005 I use adguard. First one is what comes with AdGuard presinstalled. Second is the one which you can tweak, create exceptions and create own filters

barbudo2005

@iqaluit

I was referring to the injection methods.

iqaluit

@barbudo2005 Sorry. I don't have an answer

Bingbot

Since Vivaldi is based on Chrome and google wants to remove adblock support by removing certain APIs. What will this mean for Vivaldi and adblock support?

Will i use support for ublock origin in future versions and maybe other extensions?

Regards,
Bingbot

PS. i hope this hasnt answer already ...