Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements
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I don't know why people say it's one click to revert the changes, it's certainly not. I put compact view on and my stacked tabs have gaps between them that they certainly did not have before:
Either there is another missing option, or changes were forced upon users that can't be reverted.
Also, going back to square tabs without rounding corners is digging rather deep into the settings of the theme. Problem is that it changes rounded corners of more than just the tabs, it's also the notification icons and the profile button.
And also reverting the icon sets... Let's be honest, it's many clicks and reading through a guide.As a professional GUI programmer, this is not how you deploy an update. You always go for opt-in with customization changes.
I would go as far as labeling the gaps between the tabs as a bug if it can't be reverted. If this topic is not monitored by the development team, where do I write to them?
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@nlisker said in Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements:
I don't know why people say it's one click to revert the changes, it's certainly not. I put compact view on and my stacked tabs have gaps between them that they certainly did not have before:
Either there is another missing option, or changes were forced upon users that can't be reverted.
Also, going back to square tabs without rounding corners is digging rather deep into the settings of the theme. Problem is that it changes rounded corners of more than just the tabs, it's also the notification icons and the profile button.
And also reverting the icon sets... Let's be honest, it's many clicks and reading through a guide.As a professional GUI programmer, this is not how you deploy an update. You always go for opt-in with customization changes.
I would go as far as labeling the gaps between the tabs as a bug if it can't be reverted. If this topic is not monitored by the development team, where do I write to them?
as Ambassador this post gains more visibility to them just because i'm answering it no guarantees of an answer from them but yeah
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@mikeyb2001 said in Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements:
as Ambassador this post gains more visibility to them just because i'm answering it no guarantees of an answer from them but yeah
Thanks, but there should be a way to directly contact them, e.g., via a bug report or other formal means.
I don't remember the last time I came to post on the forums, but this change was bad enough that I needed to break a long silence.
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@nlisker Hi, so maybe this is more direct:
Settings → Appearance → User Interface Density → Compact
Settings → Appearance → User Interface Density → Compact Menu Layout (this may have been there before version 7.0)
Settings → Themes → Use Icon Set from → Subtle (whichever of the three you choose brings back the old icons)
The rounded corners and yellow title of the active tab are part of my custom theme.
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@Folgore101 said in Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements:
@nlisker Hi, so maybe this is more direct:
Settings → Appearance → User Interface Density → Compact
Settings → Appearance → User Interface Density → Compact Menu Layout (this may have been there before version 7.0)
Settings → Themes → Use Icon Set from → Subtle (whichever of the three you choose brings back the old icons)The rounded corners and yellow title of the active tab are part of my custom theme.
I thought it was clear that I did all of those. Can you show how you got rid of the gap between the stacked tabs that I posted as an image?
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@nlisker I didn't do anything in particular, just the 3 things i listed.
PS: Ok i understand, that space appears depends on what setting you use in "Tab Staking":
Compact - No space (what i use)
Two-Level - Lots of space (what you use)
Accordion - Little spaceI've always used "Compact", i don't remember what it was like before version 7.0.
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@Folgore101 said in Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements:
@nlisker I didn't do anything in particular, just the 3 things i listed.
PS: Ok i understand, that space appears depends on what setting you use in "Tab Staking":
Compact - No space (what i use)
Two-Level - Lots of space (what you use)
Accordion - Little spaceI've always used "Compact", i don't remember what it was like before version 7.0.
I've always used Two-level and this gap was not present before 7.0.
In any case, I've filed 2 bug reports about this and about the rounding of tabs that affects other buttons as well since I consider these unexpected behaviors.
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Vivaldi upgraded on two computers, and now it's completely different on both. On one I was using the Hot Pink theme which I had modified. That theme is now gone, ie. it does not appear in the themes picker in settings. On the other, I was using the Blueprint theme. That theme is also now gone.
I read through this thread and everyone keeps saying you can get everything back to the way it was by clicking two buttons, so which two buttons do I need to click?
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@lessthansix
Follow the first post description to get old tabs and compact view back.
If you want the old themes back with icons and all it is maybe easier to download the original themes from:https://themes.vivaldi.net/categories/vivaldi-official
Cheers, mib
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I don't expect to actually receive an answer for this, but why do developers insist on forcing design changes onto existing users? Setting them for new users is fine, but make it opt-in for your existing users.
Have you not learned from YouTube? From Reddit? From the countless others who make design changes so widely hated amongst their users? For those, there aren't any real alternatives. This is a browser, however. There are countless others and forcing changes upon your users will only force them away.
Do not do this. I'm sure someone worked hard on this but no one asked for this. I'm sure there are some that like it, but there are just as many who don't. Just stop with this nonsense already.
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@TheNorsePantheon this is Vivaldi after all literally type 1 word and 2 clicks and boom compact mode is back
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This is exactly the kind of UI I installed Vivaldi specifically to get away from.... It's getting so much harder to find a good browser these days. What a shame that every company insists on blindly chasing trends set by people who only make changes to keep looking important.
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@mikeyb2001 said in Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements:
@TheNorsePantheon this is Vivaldi after all literally type 1 word and 2 clicks and boom compact mode is back
It shouldn't be necessary. Make it opt-in with 2 clicks, not opt-out.
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I sometimes think some users never use other software than browsers.
This is Blender 3D, left is 2.49, right is 2.50 and there are no buttons to change anything back.
Take it or stay at 2.49 forever.
Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin said in Vivaldi 7 | New Layout & User's Disagreements:
I sometimes think some users never use other software than browsers.
This is Blender 3D, left is 2.49, right is 2.50 and there are no buttons to change anything back.
Take it or stay at 2.49 forever.Cheers, mib
I definitely use other software, though as a web developer primarily, I use browsers for more than just casual browsing. I hate forced changes in everything I use. Spotify is the most recent example of something I use on the regular that has been changing its design.
A lot of the software I use is on versions that are 5+ years old.
After this update in particular, I'm turning off automatic updates.
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@TheNorsePantheon
I will never understand this, I used Windows 11 one Year before it was published in the insider program and it is much better designed than Windows 10.
I use a rolling release distribution on Linux, always the latest newest software but my smartphone is 6 Years old.
The Blender change starts a revolution in the forums:
I hate it, I change to other software, all what we read here.
But now they are all quiet and use the 2.5 design, it's just better than 2.4 ever was.
Using a not up to date browser is not a good idea anyway, independent of the design.Cheers, mib
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I agree that the recent changes were annoying; we usually see a whole lot of complaints like this with each new release, but I have learnt that it takes very little effort to fix things. Last time, it was the stupid centring of buttons and fields on the Address Bar; this time it was UI and Menu spacing, plus an ugly theme. I have long used my own themes, so the latter is a non-issue for me.
Whatever the changes are, the Community is always here to help out if any users cannot figure it out for themselves.
It is never a good idea to use an outdated browser, and every minor update with Chromium fixes some security issues.
When I was Beta testing for Serif, we had similar complaints for every upgrade to PagePlus. There were hundreds of genuine improvements, but some users only saw the changes that forced them to learn something new.
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@Zalex108 great, but how do i get rid of this hideous context menu design? it literally looks like it's made toddler-safe
ok, got, forgot to check "compact menu layout". but i still hate that new design.
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Well, I've held off from updating to 7 because of the UI changes.
I'll echo everyone else's complaints - don't ever make drastic UI changes without making it opt-in at upgrade time!
This is one of the reasons I disable auto-updates on pretty much everything, even if I generally install them immediately anyway. If I'd come in one day and just screwed-up the UI on me I'd have been furious and probably getting myself banned here on the forums!
Now I'm prepared to take on the upgrade and follow the guides to restore as much as possible, so wish me luck!
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I don't really like this new UI, and the menu bar on xfce4 is not aligned and cannot be adjusted or reverted back to the original version, so I only reached 6.9 and hold the version, not upgrading anymore.
