How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?

Catweazle

@electryon, with the WebEraser script it cost me an Ctrl+Left click to eliminate any crap from the page.

electryon

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@electryon, with the WebEraser script it cost me an Ctrl+Left click to eliminate any crap from the page.

Thank you Catweazle I didn't know about this script.
I will check it out.

RasheedHolland

@electryon said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

Yes, we have tried uBO's element picker. But there is nothing more powerful than using a userscript for that. With a script you can do stuff you can't with an element picker, like hiding an element, not only removing it, change styles to it.

Yes, I'm sure you can do other stuff with these user scripts, but uBlock's element picker gets the job done in a second or so. Although I do have to admit that it can not remove everything. But using Stylus and Violentmonkey is not a serious option for me.

RasheedHolland

@electryon said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@electryon, with the WebEraser script it cost me an Ctrl+Left click to eliminate any crap from the page.

Thank you Catweazle I didn't know about this script.
I will check it out.

BTW, would you be able to get rid of the annoying ''failed to load script'' error on Yahoo Finance? You get to see this when you block scripts from brightcove.net via uBlock Origin. I block it because you will get to see these annoying autoplay videos, and Yahoo Finance refuses to take them down.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HD/

Catweazle

@RasheedHolland, I don't see any nags of these in this page, using only the Vivaldi Blocker

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RasheedHolland

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@RasheedHolland, I don't see any nags of these in this page, using only the Vivaldi Blocker.

You should click on the ''Back to classic Yahoo! Finance'' button in the top right corner, then you should see the autoplay videos, when you scroll down. I use Yahoo Finance Classic, because the new design sucks. You will see this error message on this link too (when you block brightcove.net):

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/BTC-USD/?p=BTC-USD&.tsrc=fin-srch

Catweazle

@RasheedHolland, yes, I see an "Related Video", but as said I can't block specific directions like brightcove with the Vivaldi blocker, but I can delete all with the WebEraser script without any error messages

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electryon

@RasheedHolland said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@electryon said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@electryon, with the WebEraser script it cost me an Ctrl+Left click to eliminate any crap from the page.

Thank you Catweazle I didn't know about this script.
I will check it out.

BTW, would you be able to get rid of the annoying ''failed to load script'' error on Yahoo Finance? You get to see this when you block scripts from brightcove.net via uBlock Origin. I block it because you will get to see these annoying autoplay videos, and Yahoo Finance refuses to take them down.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HD/

You want to remove the videos from the site?
This seem to work for me, I am not visiting the site, so I am not 100% sure.
This will remove these videos, the site seems to also have youtube videos, I haven't removed them, but they can also be removed with the iframe.
Tested in Tampermonkey MV3.

// ==UserScript==
// @name        test
// @run-at      document-start
// @grant       GM_addStyle
// @match       *://finance.yahoo.com/*
// ==/UserScript==

var path = document.location.hostname;

if (path === 'finance.yahoo.com') {
    GM_addStyle('div[id$="-QuoteVideo"] {display: none !important;}');
};

RasheedHolland

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@RasheedHolland, yes, I see an "Related Video", but as said I can't block specific directions like brightcove with the Vivaldi blocker, but I can delete all with the WebEraser script without any error messages.

Yes, but in the screenshot it looks like you have erased the whole page? I think you still don't understand me, or you simly don't see the autoplay videos, I will post a screenshot.

RasheedHolland

@electryon said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@RasheedHolland said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@electryon said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@electryon, with the WebEraser script it cost me an Ctrl+Left click to eliminate any crap from the page.

Thank you Catweazle I didn't know about this script.
I will check it out.

BTW, would you be able to get rid of the annoying ''failed to load script'' error on Yahoo Finance? You get to see this when you block scripts from brightcove.net via uBlock Origin. I block it because you will get to see these annoying autoplay videos, and Yahoo Finance refuses to take them down.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/HD/

You want to remove the videos from the site?
This seem to work for me, I am not visiting the site, so I am not 100% sure. This will remove these videos, the site seems to also have youtube videos, I haven't removed them, but they can also be removed with the iframe. Tested in Tampermonkey MV3.

To clarify, uBlock's element picker will let me remove those annoying little autoplay videos on Yahoo Finance, but then I will get to see an ugly script error in Vivaldi 6.1, so I would like to get rid of this too, see screenshot.

Catweazle

@RasheedHolland, the error is because, maybe, that this video is fixed referred part of the page element selected (Video related). If you delete the video the rest of this part point to the deleted video, which lead to the error. Because of this the WebEraser script only pemits to delete the upper part with the graphic or both selecting the video.
This means that the script takes into account the relationships between elements, avoiding errors, which the uBO element picker does not do.
Nothing you can do al respect, or the error message or deleting all.

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RasheedHolland

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@RasheedHolland, the error is because, maybe, that this video is fixed referred part of the page element selected (Video related). If you delete the video the rest of this part point to the deleted video, which lead to the error. Because of this the WebEraser script only pemits to delete the upper part with the graphic or both selecting the video.
This means that the script takes into account the relationships between elements, avoiding errors, which the uBO element picker does not do.
Nothing you can do al respect, or the error message or deleting all.

Never mind, seems like you get to see some other video on this page. I'm talking about the small videos, but apparently you don't see them. Also, I just noticed that for whatever reason, I don't get to see the script error in Viv 6.8, so seems to be some type of weird problem on Viv 6.1. But anyway, this is all off topic, so I will stop.

RasheedHolland

Back to the topic, why doesn't Vivaldi take the same approach as Brave? I think Vivaldi should clearly state that it will keep supporting MV2 extensions like uBlock, for as long as the developer keeps supporting MV2 versions. And I would also like to hear about when Vivaldi will improve its rather basic adblocker.

https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/

DoctorG

@RasheedHolland Means that Brave will support some older v2 extensions, but not all.

RasheedHolland

@DoctorG said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

@RasheedHolland Means that Brave will support some older v2 extensions, but not all.

No correct, you can't support them all, but let's face it, we're only worried about adblockers, since they are going to be crippled.

Catweazle

Today I found my Userscript Manager empty. Apparently Google has updated the Sscript Manager to v3 and these no longer allow installing scripts such as Redirect Embeded and Web Eraser, which were deleted from my extension, same with the other script manager in the store, therefore I have installed the scripts for the moment as extensions directly and uninstalled the Userscript Manager.
I prefer not to say anything about Google that is on my mind, because I would surely be banned from the forum.

Pathduck

@Catweazle said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:

Apparently Google has updated the Sscript Manager to v3

Google does not update extensions - the extension developer updates extensions... so if you should blame someone blame them for nuking your scripts without warning.

Tampermonkey updated to v3 over a month ago, no scripts were removed and it's still working as expected.
Violentmonkey is still on v2.

I've never heard of "Sscript Manager"?

barbudo2005

If someone uses LibertyBear (a fork of Violentmonkey) despite these statistics, then let's not claim anything:

barbudo2005

Another point to clarify:

Google, as evil as it may be, does NOT introduce malicious code into the extensions, that is done by the extension developer.

Catweazle

@Pathduck, whatever, for sure are not the extension devs which deleted muy scripts from the extension, which also not permit to reinstalar these, the accept button stays grayed out.
Also an eterny loading sign to install another SM
The Chrome Store anyway is less and less a valid source for me.

Maybe if there is someone with still these scripts in their SM, maybe because it goes by countries as also before in the adblocker issues in YT.

The scripts as extensions are working flawlwss.