Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?
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My guess such could be caused by:
- Interaction with Vivaldi UI (saw such f.ex. with mouse move over UI)
- tabs being refreshed (in Window and other workspaces)
- ad/tracker blocker or other extension
- extensive graphics interaction
- broken GPU acceleration
- swapping to disc when low ressources
- Vivaldi Mail, Calendar, Feeds
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I use a little extension (10,19 KB) which shows me CPU/Memory use in an icon in the Adress bar. Depending of my activity it shows me between 1 and 30% CPU, only if loading a heavy page it goes schortly up to 100%.
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@RasheedHolland In the past i had sometimes trouble with uBlockOrigin which could cause such nasty spikes and freezes.
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@DoctorG said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
My guess such could be caused by:
- Interaction with Vivaldi UI (saw such f.ex. with mouse move over UI)
- tabs being refreshed (in Window and other workspaces)
- ad/tracker blocker or other extension
- extensive graphics interaction
- broken GPU acceleration
- swapping to disc when low ressources
To clarify, I never saw this behavior with Viv 6.1, 6.4, 6.7, so it's some new bug. Nothing else changed on my machine, well except for certain extensions that may have updated themselves. But the thing is, even when I disable all extensions, I still see the CPU spikes. It doesn't matter which tab (or tabstack) is active. I have also disabled the Memory Saver, so it shouldn't play a role.
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@DoctorG said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
@RasheedHolland In the past i had sometimes trouble with uBlock Origin which could cause such nasty spikes and freezes.
I never had problems with uBlock Origin before, and it happens without any extensions active. Or now that I think of it, let's say the CPU spiking starts and then I immediately disable all extensions, then extensions can't play a role any longer, correct?
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@Catweazle said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
I use a little extension (10,19 KB) which shows me CPU/Memory use in an icon in the Adress bar. Depending of my activity it shows me between 1 and 30% CPU, only if loading a heavy page it goes schortly up to 100%.
OK cool, didn't know about this handy extension. And yes correct, normally you will only see CPU usage going up (to 100%) when websites are being loaded, this is normal. When websites are active in the background, CPU usage should not be high of course.
But what I see, is that when Vivaldi is active for about 24 hours, it will start acting weirdly. For no good reason CPU usage will go up to 100% for about 2 to 4 minutes (or longer), then it automatically stops, but it might start again at any given time. This is of course bad for battery power usage (on laptops) and fans will need to start spinning because the system heats up.
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@RasheedHolland, in Windows is normal if you use the sistem for more than 24 h without reboots, depending of the settings and handling of temporary files, which are accumulative. It's an OS issue, not one from Vivaldi.
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@Catweazle said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
@RasheedHolland, in Windows is normal if you use the sistem for more than 24 h without reboots, depending of the settings and handling of temporary files, which are accumulative. It's an OS issue, not one from Vivaldi. Test it with the Windows hibernate and index services desactivated.
I think you're misunderstanding, there is nothing normal about this issue, and it isn't caused by Windows. The problem is within Vivaldi itself.
Like I said, it's a new issue that I have never seen before in Vivaldi. Just like the ''performance degradation'' problem was also new in Vivaldi 6.2, and wasn't fixed until 6.8, so the last version that worked without any noticable problems on my system was Viv 6.1, and 6.8 would be almost perfect since it's quite snappy, but then this problem popped up, so I'm quite frustrated.
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@RasheedHolland, well, anyway I can't reproduce this error, I never experimented performance flaws in Vivaldi, even not having the OS working for more than 24 h. As you can see in my signature, I don't have even an powerfull gaming PC, but only an cheap laptop with somewhat more than 6GB RAM free.
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After more than a day I still see no spikes apart from the usual and my Vivaldi is still functional so I don't know what's the issue. Process Lasso do balances Vivaldi on my end though.
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@Catweazle said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
@RasheedHolland, well, anyway I can't reproduce this error, I never experimented performance flaws in Vivaldi, even not having the OS working for more than 24 h. As you can see in my signature, I don't have even an powerfull gaming PC, but only an cheap laptop with somewhat more than 6GB RAM free. The reason can only be in the settings and/or extensions you use.
It might als depend on how you use the browser, I open 50+ tabs, and leave Vivaldi in memory for at least 5 days before restarting. But the thing is, I don't see the problem with Viv 6.1 with the exact same extensions. And I mostly use the same websites (about 25 different ones) every day. So there is something wrong with Viv 6.8 on my system, that's for sure.
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@urzuse7en said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
After more than a day I still see no spikes apart from the usual and my Vivaldi is still functional so I don't know what's the issue. Process Lasso do balances Vivaldi on my end though.
OK thanks for checking. I assume you also opened at least 50 tabs and left them all open in the background? And how many extensions are you using? Although I doubt extensions play any role, since I use the exact same ones in Viv 6.1, which doesn't have these weird CPU spikes.
Also, I'm not a fan of Process Lasso, I remember many years ago, Opera 12 had this huge crash and I lost some data, I still believe Process Lasso was the cause, so be careful. Perhaps you can also test, without Process Lassso? Because it's possible that Process Lasso is suppressing the spikes.
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BTW, this is the bug report: VB-108672
Will keep you guys posted. If this CPU spiking bug is not fixed, I will have to keep using Vivaldi 6.1, which I'm happy to do, but it's kinda sad.
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Broken news feeds (Atom, RSS) can cause such overload in rare cases.
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@DoctorG said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
Broken news feeds (Atom, RSS) can cause such overload in rare cases.
What do you mean with this, is this something I can turn off in Vivaldi? I don't use RSS feeds.
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@RasheedHolland said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
I don't use RSS feeds.
If you do not use Vivaldi Mail and Vivaldi Feeds, that is not the cause of your PC's performance issues.
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@RasheedHolland Since older Vivaldi much more files are stored and changed in profile, i guess.
Would be interesting if data is swapped to disc, the Windows Defender kicks in to scan, at the time when CPU usage runs up. -
@RasheedHolland I can not reproduce your issue on my Intel i5-7400 + NVidia PC, perhaps because i have 16 GB RAM and a fast SSD.
But i agree that older Vivaldi version were faster and less consuming resources.
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@DoctorG said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
@RasheedHolland said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
I don't use RSS feeds.
If you do not use Vivaldi Mail and Vivaldi Feeds, that is not the cause of your PC's performance issues.
OK I see.
@DoctorG said in Weird CPU spikes in Vivaldi 6.8?:
@RasheedHolland I can not reproduce your issue on my Intel i5-7400 + NVidia PC, perhaps because i have 16 GB RAM and a fast SSD.
But i agree that older Vivaldi version were faster and less consuming resources.
I don't have an issue with Vivaldi using slightly more RAM, and Vivaldi 6.8 is still fast on my machine.
But I do think that something is wrong with Vivaldi's design, it should not have these weird CPU spikes. Like I said, it doesn't seem to be triggered by any specific website and even without extensions I still see these spikes.
In other words, Viv 6.8 is acting abnormally. It's not clear if it's caused by the amount of open tabs, or by service workers, or the size of your cache, history or bookmark file. What's clear is that it's not caused by any third party (security) tool.
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@RasheedHolland Do you have pinned tabs and are tabs loaded delayed (Settings → General → Startup → lazy load and Always load pinned tabs)?
I get some ugly spikes when tabs are loaded delayed or after hibernating themselves after some time.
