Mod: Removing Traffic Lights On Tab Bar
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@qjava Thanks for getting back to me.
all mods that modified this CSS will unfortunately not work
Yeah, and this includes all mods that want to change the height of the top bar, since the top offset of the buttons will look weird.
As you can see here
Since native buttons have a huge impact on the user experience
You are absolutely right. Unfortunately it's a bad impact in my case
it also works with accessibility apps and third-party window managers.
As you can see from my screenshots I don't even use the buttons at all, because I have my third-party window manager do the window management for me
Even without the native buttons it worked great with third-party window managers
So
Would you consider making it possible to hide the buttons?
Ideally with some way for JS code to replicate at least some of their basic functionality for users who need or want that. But even just being able to hide them at all would be great! Thanks
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Well, I'd like to make it work for everyone, but while Vivaldi gives a lot of customization options, in some cases it's virtually impossible to make it work with custom UI modifications. For example, Vivaldi itself gives many options that affect the position of the traffic light (the position of the address bar, the position of the bookmarks bar and its visibility, etc.) and their handling is just complicated enough.
Even without the native buttons it worked great with third-party window managersI'm glad it worked, but in our bug tracking system we had many bug reports of broken window managers or not working with our custom traffic light (e.g. Moom).
Would you consider making it possible to hide the buttons?Personally, I would think that hiding the most obvious way to exit the app from the user is really confusing and shady
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@qjava said in Mod: Removing Traffic Lights On Tab Bar:
Personally, I would think that hiding the most obvious way to exit the app from the user is really confusing and shady
We can certainly consider this possibility, but we would have to evaluate the priorities of this (at this point) new feature.Yeah, definitely not a feature most users would need. But just some way, no matter how convoluted, to hide the buttons would be great! I'd even entertain the possibility of building a custom version of the browser. I even downloaded the sources I could find, but that's where my efforts stopped at the time. But with some help/pointers I'd still be up for that.
What kind of JS <-> Native interface bindings do you have in place? Being able to hide the buttons, and then run some custom JS function to trigger them would be ideal I think.
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JS communicates via extension functions, which are listed for example here (currently listes 6.6). If the API ever supports traffic light hiding, it will probably be there. However, using this is very unstable, and can be a security risk, so I would not advise doing it.
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@qjava said in Mod: Removing Traffic Lights On Tab Bar:
JS communicates via extension functions, which are listed for example here
Nice! Thanks for the link. Please let me know if anything related to the traffic light buttons ever gets added to the extension functions.
In the meantime I'll stay on Vivaldi 6.6 -
Thank you, but anyway. So-called headless mode is highly appreciated, especially on a small screen of a notebook.
And now Vivaldi is the only one who doesn't support it... Add the option please. -
@Truemotion said in Mod: Removing Traffic Lights On Tab Bar:
So-called headless mode is highly appreciated, especially on a small screen of a notebook.
And now Vivaldi is the only one who doesn't support itCan you give me an example please?
I believe 'View -> Hide UI' (or Cmd+F10) is a great way if you want to focus on the content of the webpage without obscuring your view with browser UI. Also, you can 'Enter Full Screen' (green light, or Ctrl+Cmd+F) to hide traffic lights.
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@qjava said in Mod: Removing Traffic Lights On Tab Bar:
Or both, to hide everything from your view
I like to add Option+Cmd+P to that list of shortcuts too, to get a really clean experience
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Ohh, this was interesting
Ctrl+Cmd+F + Cmd+F10 => Panel still shows
Cmd+F10 + Ctrl+Cmd+F => Panel is also hiddenIs this the expected behavior?
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@tobbelundberg said in Mod: Removing Traffic Lights On Tab Bar:
I like to add Option+Cmd+P to that list of shortcuts too, to get a really clean experience
You can create a Quick Command and assign it a Custom Shortcut
Ctrl+Cmd+F + Cmd+F10 => Panel still shows
Cmd+F10 + Ctrl+Cmd+F => Panel is also hiddenIs this the expected behavior?
Probably not, good catch
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@qjava hm, traffic lights? They are still there. I meant — does not support fully.
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@qjava Hi, would Vivaldi consider making traffic light buttons aligned automatically according to height of tab bar?
I made the top bar height small by hiding the top bar and having the buttons in the address bar, and the traffic light buttons become very low, after vivaldi switches to native traffic light buttons after 6.7 and in the current 7.1
I thought that there is no solution since it is the mac native buttons, but I just saw that in Lyx (a different app I use), they also switch to mac native buttons, while the traffice light buttons can fit well into a small top bar. See attached screenshot. Thanks very much! 
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@badou It's not perfect, but I managed to get the traffic lights to a better position using a very hacky workaround detailed here: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/102406/excessive-whitespace-in-mainbar/5?_=1738331268024
This is what it looks like:
Hopefully that post can give you some ideas to play around with
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@badou you can either use Native Window, Hide UI (cmd + F10), or set address bar and tab bar to bottom on the window to have the position of the traffic lights as in LyX
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@qjava Thank you very much. I tried putting address bar to the button, but two bars took a bit too much space, and I am using Vivaldi on a laptop, so I would prefer to have a compact view.
cmd+F10 is indeed an option for me, though I still like the previous compact view a bit better - the address bar (cmd+L) does not need to jump out every time I need it, and a stable UI seems to be nicer for me.
I am currently continue using Vivaldi 6.6 where I can have the desired traffic light location. If Vivaldi 6.6 stopped working at some point, and I have to switch to a higher version, I think I will use the cmd+F10 option...
Still, I am hoping that there is a solution...I tried the option proposed by
tobbelundberg
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/102406/excessive-whitespace-in-mainbar/5?_=1738331268024
The traffic light location becomes a bit nicer, but somehow my top bar height is not as compact as his...
Any suggestions would be very appreciated!
