Arching Floorpians

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3682.3

@npro said in Arching Floorpians:

"I'm cheating Floorp with Firefox Nightly" sounds appropriate...

Why not just "Cheaters corner"?
Then you can stray as much as you like in one thread.

ybjrepnfr

@TbGbe pffft; typical windozer attitude!

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3682.3

@ybjrepnfr Yep.
I cheat on Linux with Windows

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Arching Floorpians:

every single time i use either the sidebar webpanels

what are those?

ybjrepnfr

@TbGbe tch tch tch. prolly also a horizontaller! it just gets worse & worse...

ybjrepnfr

@npro dunno. i've looked all over my Nightly, but just can't find them anywhere! total mystery to me...

ybjrepnfr

expect things to go a bit quiet with floorp for some time now.

https://libreddit.lunar.icu/r/Floorp/comments/1bupxiz/developer_is_so_busy_very_busy_has_lots_if_thing/

npro

@ybjrepnfr floorp?

stilgarwolf

@npro Midori!

ybjrepnfr

@ybjrepnfr said in Arching Floorpians:

Floorp... doesn't play nicely with my fav rss addon & i couldn't find a workaround

i deduced a workaround, so now i've flipflopped back again to floorp, woohoo

npro

@ybjrepnfr nice . In my case some time ago I wanted to try tst again but somehow it was auto-collapsing to the side. It was so annoying and I never managed to fix it, was working fine in FFN though, with the same profile.
Haven't done a su -c 'pacman -Rns floorp-bin' yet though , but I'm considering it

ybjrepnfr

@npro gasp! your licence to visit this thread is now hanging by a fragile tendril...

npro

@stilgarwolf I'd rather use... Vivaldi than a fork of a fork . Apart from that, did they add something by themselves already?

P.S. Is Vivaldi any good?

npro

@ybjrepnfr One thing that is bothering me for a while with Sidebery (contrary to TST) is its default "curvy" font. Have you ever bothered changing it?

ybjrepnfr

@npro ha, not sure if i understand exactly what you mean, but fwiw, here's all my sidebery style changes atm.

/* ====================MY STUFF STARTS HERE======================= */

#root.root {--tabs-pinned-width: 19px;}
#root.root {--tabs-font: 0.78rem roboto condensed;}
#root.root {--tabs-height: 16px;}
#root.root {--tabs-activated-fg: #000000ff;}
#root.root {--nav-btn-height: 35px;}
#root.root {--scroll-color: rgba(255,255,255,0.212);}
#root.root {--nav-btn-border-radius: 3px;}
#root.root {--tabs-count-font: 1.325rem roboto condensed;}
#root.root {--bookmarks-folder-height: 16px;}
#root.root {--bookmarks-bookmark-height: 16px;}
#root.root {--bookmarks-folder-font: 0.8rem roboto condensed;}
#root.root {--bookmarks-bookmark-font: 0.8rem roboto condensed;}
#root.root {--history-item-height: 16px;}


/* https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues/541#issuecomment-1232503964 */
/* "colour the audio-icon of a tab, separate to the tab's name-font" = https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues/541#issuecomment-1232503964 */
.Tab .audio > svg {
  fill: red !important;
}


/* https://github.com/mbnuqw/sidebery/issues/740#issuecomment-1249268799 */
/* Show title of unread tabs with pink italic font */
.Tab[data-unread="true"] .title {
  color: #ff93fe;
  font-style: italic;
}
/* Highlight active tab. This makes the active tab very noticeable increasing its height and modifying the color and font */
.Tab[data-active="true"] {  
  background-color: #aaaaff;
}
.Tab[data-active="true"] .title {
  color: #300090;
	font-weight: bold;
  font-size: 16px;
}
/* Change styling of pending (unloaded) tabs */
.Tab[data-discarded="true"] .title {
  color: #3DEDD8;
  font-style: italic;
}


#root.root {--tabs-indent: 16px;}

#root.root {--popup-fg: #f5c211ff;}

#root.root {--ctx-menu-separator: #dc8addff;}

#root.root {--tabs-activated-bg: #aaaaff;}

#root.root {--frame-fg: #ffffffff;}
#root.root {--tabs-progress-bg: #c64600ff;}
#root.root {--frame-bg: #282828;}

#root.root {--ctx-menu-fg: #fff;}

#root.root {--bookmarks-separator-height: 12px;}

#root.root {--nav-progress-bg: #f6d32dff;}

/* ======================MY STUFF ENDS HERE======================= */

to boringly repeat what i've been saying now for years, after enjoying the magnificence of sidebery, or less so [but still great] treestyletab, it's simply impossible to tolerate the comparative primitiveness of poor old vivaldi's tab management paradigm. not to mention full vs partial uBO [cname-uncloaking] even now, let alone impending Mv3. not to mention... ah, there's no point any more; v devs headed off in a direction of no interest to me long ago, & ofc they're not for turning back now.

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Arching Floorpians:

#root.root {--tabs-font: 0.78rem roboto condensed;}

ahh, it's just that and most imporantly one just pastes stuff in that box in the style editor lol. I thought one would need to create an extra .css file somewhere in a directory etc and stuff which I didn't want to get into (yet another time). Perfect thanks a bunch you are very informative + 10x more as always.. ehm I mean in those months you are semi-active here.

it's simply impossible to tolerate the comparative primitiveness of poor old vivaldi's tab management paradigm

exactly this, while tab stacks started promisingly, they were left in a stale primitive state with no good -annoying- usability. I was never happy with any of those 3 poor implementations, most of the time I was breaking my wrist doing those extra movements needed for simple stuff and wondering "why it has to be that bad" all the time, so I had enough.

ybjrepnfr

@npro said in Arching Floorpians:

ehm I mean in those months you are semi-active here

yeah, i don't bother regularly checking in to the general forum anymore, albeit maybe sometimes for a day or two after a bigger update... but i do keep an eye on this thread, for... reasons... heehee. I noticed you've been active in the thread for the latest snapshot, & i admire your energy level in being able to do it, but for better or worse, i lost that energy a fair while ago now... which sometimes feels weird to me, given how important v the browser & v the forum were to me for so many years since early 2015... but tbh, now that feels like ancient history. oh well.

@npro said in Arching Floorpians:

thanks a bunch

you're most welcome, ofc. if anything i posted was of some use for you, then i'm pleased.

@npro said in Arching Floorpians:

never happy with any of those 3 poor implementations

until the day i discovered tst, i felt quite positive about v's options for tabs, because it was better than all the alternative browsers. however, that day, tst day haha, really opened my eyes. that was also when my several years of jumping back & fwd from nightly to v to nightly to v began... every time i came back to v i soon badly missed the sophistication of tst. then, ofc later, once i found sidebery, it was truly game over. and now, with sidebery in floorp... i'm back to being like a pig in shit again, as used to be the contentment i felt all those earlier years in v.

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Arching Floorpians:

I noticed you've been active in the thread for the latest snapshot

Yeah I broke my absence lol. I get notifications in my Feeds about new Snapshots and usually I check them for not missing something that could be important, due to some friends and family members using Vivaldi (stable) because of me, and as you probably know that is the biggest mistake one can make as when something breaks you are then to be blamed . In that case the new Chromium menu attrocity raised a big red flag. Also if I find something relatively easily during that short period of "test" I write about it, like this one , but it's up to others/devs to see/report them, these days I prefer to spend some time on KDE and its bugs instead.

I still like V's devs and Jon obviously for their work and vision and for the many years of joy they have provided me, but I wish they could focus more on the browser and less on Mail and Calendar (every snapshot contains dozens of M & C issues for years already).
Also, inwardly I am kinda still wishing/waiting for them to ditch the Chromium engine finally after all that bs that is happening to them due to their choice.

ybjrepnfr

@npro said in Arching Floorpians:

every snapshot contains dozens of M & C issues for years already

yes, agreed, & for me this [apart from the sad tabs management status ofc] really ended up sucking the fun out of v updates [like Count Vlad sucks the blood from his victims, perhaps, teehee?] for me. all those years of eager anticipation for the next snappie [& the various running jokes in the forum about them] were pretty much killed once the long-awaited-by-some M&C arrived, & it began dawning on me that most of the time, most ongoing snappie changelogs were going to be entirely dominated by M&C crap... yawn!

@npro said in Arching Floorpians:

kinda still wishing/waiting for them to ditch the Chromium engine

ybjrepnfr

uh ohhhhhhh

https://libreddit.lunar.icu/r/Floorp/comments/1ca7vr6/future_features_roadmap/l0vrrgd/?context=3

u/Surapuyousei Developer 19h ago

I admit to being in a stormy situation as I have been struggling quite a bit lately with Floorp's future direction.