Arching Floorpians
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sidebery
v5.1.1.2 released [for me] this morning, with new feature of optional tab hover thumbnails [with several settings for various configurability]. it is really good. thus now myfloorp
has:- vertical tabs with infinite hierarchical nesting, & independent groups, & thumbnails
- web-panels [with my enduring gratitude to OperaPresto then Vivaldi for inventing these!]
- no
chromium
! - fully functional [ie, including
cname-uncloaking
]uBlockOrigin
via Mv2 now & indefinitely - ongoing
html5 canvas fingerprint
spoofing AO compatibility - ongoing
HTTP/2 Fingerprinting
blocking capability - tab split-view
OperaPresto was lovely. Vivaldi is fab, but with caveats. Floorp [with Sidebery] has now fully usurped Vivaldi, for my use-case.
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Ditto. After a few days Vivaldi always got so bloated that my 32GB machine turned to a swapping crawl. Video never worked well on Linux. I was just hooked to the two-level tabs... Bit the bullet and converted to floorp with sideberry: I think I now have >1000 tabs in sidebars, the thing has been running for several weeks, and everything is so smooth. Done.
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@vvsurfr said in Arching Floorpians:
floorp with sideberry
This is a great combo. I'm still loving it.
That said, i also keep another profile using
treestyletab
[& many of its companion AOs] instead ofsidebery
, coz sadly sidebery is incompatible with some of the nice native floorp functions [eg, floorp'sworkspaces
].The latest incompatibility i discovered yesterday; when sidebery is installed & active, if you then enable one of floorp's newer features, allowing extensions to operate in the sidebar webpanels [which incidentally floorp got before vivaldi did], cpu usage skyrockets, cpu temperature shoots up, & a dozen or more "ghost" windows spawn. Initially they're invisible, but you know the problem has been triggered when you go to close floorp & need to confirm that you want to close [eg] 14 windows, when you only had one open. If you proceed, next time you launch floorp, all those ghost windows become real windows, comprising only one or a couple of your tabs. It's a terrible mess.
For some reason,
tst
is fully compatible with floorp, whereas sadly sidebery is only maybe 80% compatible. So every now & then, though i strongly prefer sidebery, i sometimes use that other profile instead, enjoying the full range of floorp's features, but simultaneously missing sidebery's many advantages over tst. -
I am not an Archian user, but a Mint user, but I am writing here my experience with installing Floorp. I was surprised that the download was over 300MB. Why? Because it had to install necessary Asian fonts, which I uninstalled a few days ago. As a German I don't need Asian fonts, never mind. Floorp looks quite similar to Midori, which I also installed the day before yesterday (without the Asian fonts).
Next I removed all Asian fonts with the commandsudo apt-get remove "fonts-kacst*" "fonts-khmeros*" fonts-lklug-sinhala fonts-guru-extra "fonts-nanum*" fonts-noto-cjk "fonts-takao*" fonts-tibetan-machine fonts-lao fonts-sil-padauk fonts-sil-abyssinica "fonts-tlwg-*" "fonts-lohit-*" fonts-beng-extra fonts-gargi fonts-gubbi fonts-gujr-extra fonts-kalapi "fonts-samyak*" fonts-navilu fonts-nakula fonts-orya-extra fonts-pagul fonts-sarai "fonts-telu*" "fonts-wqy*" "fonts-smc*" fonts-deva-extra fonts-sahadeva
Followed by
sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
But after that Floorp was also gone. Conclusion: Floorp - unlike Midori - does not work at all without Asian characters. Although the interface was in German.
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@ybjrepnfr said in Arching Floorpians:
i also keep another profile using treestyletab [& many of its companion AOs] instead of sidebery, coz sadly sidebery is incompatible with some of the nice native floorp functions [eg, floorp's workspaces].
The struggle of too many offerings .
I can't decide either which one is the best, tst together with workspaces in the sidebar is somehow more comfortable I'd say than clicking the small icons of sidebery, on the other hand for some time now I decided to not use the sidebar at all (I moved all "necessary" icons to the address bar, like I had those in Vivaldi), so I am mainly using sidebery, my problem though is that I can do basically the same with Firefox Nightly so I'm alternating between Floorp and FFN atmBut Floorp & FFN remain excellent, especially now that I resurrected my old Core 2 Duo E8500 which runs videos wonderfully with GPU video hardware acceleration (using CUDA), a thing Chromium-based browsers can't do (100% CPU usage) .
YAE (yet another edit) -> P.S. with today's update to 11.11, maybe extensions in the sidebar work better for you quote: (Now, Users can run almost of extensions on Floorpβs Sidebar. Now, this feature is stable!)
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@Dancer18 said in Arching Floorpians:
but a Mint user,
And there's your problem right there
it had to install necessary Asian fonts
there's no such dependencies for Arch (at least for the binary version that I know of).
@Dancer18 said in Arching Floorpians:
remove "fonts-kacst*" "fonts-khmeros*" fonts-lklug-sinhala fonts-guru-extra "fonts-nanum*" fonts-noto-cjk "fonts-takao*" fonts-tibetan-machine fonts-lao fonts-sil-padauk fonts-sil-abyssinica "fonts-tlwg-*" "fonts-lohit-*" fonts-beng-extra fonts-gargi fonts-gubbi fonts-gujr-extra fonts-kalapi "fonts-samyak*" fonts-navilu fonts-nakula fonts-orya-extra fonts-pagul fonts-sarai "fonts-telu*" "fonts-wqy*" "fonts-smc*" fonts-deva-extra fonts-sahadeva
I see the .deb package only needs
fonts-noto-cjk
, how did you end up having so much bloat? Mint?Here's an idea, install only the necessary dependencies, then install floorp locally with
dpkg -i
. This ofc is not ideal as you need to redo it with every new update. -
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
Here's an idea, install only the necessary dependencies, then install floorp locally with dpkg -i. This ofc is not ideal as you need to redo it with every new update.
Thank you for this idea. I have recognized that floorp ist very similar to midori that I have already installed. My standard browser is vivaldi, next is opera, and I just want to have a firefox-like fork in game...
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@Dancer18 Ok. Just fyi Midori is actually a fork of Floorp.
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@npro Hello you old thing! It seems that both of us are hanging around here rather less frequently than historically [which for you = many years, but for me ofc being so new here, is only a few weeks...].
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
The struggle of too many offerings
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
tst together with workspaces in the sidebar is somehow more comfortable I'd say than clicking the small icons of sidebery
yes i do agree with you; without criticising sidebery's separate
tab-panels
method, somehow i find floorp's nativeworkspaces
separation & iconographjy to be a very elegant & sophisticated solution, i like it a lot.@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
decided to not use the sidebar at all
oh well, now we can't be friends any more, & you're dead to me.
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
moved all "necessary" icons to the address bar, like I had those in Vivaldi ... can do basically the same with Firefox Nightly
yes exactly! several times over the past few months i have re-examined my desired workflows to see if i might be able to revert to Firefox Nightly (with Sidebery ofc) [coz, as you've heard me say before, i really miss having all the "shiny new bling" of Nightly, which ofc is the trade-off with using a fork of ESR]. First i tried doing what you said here, & even though it works ok, it just bugs me as being a primitive inelegant second-rate compromise. so then i tried keeping all my "floorp sidebar webpanels" pinned in Nightly's Sidebery's primary tab-panel; this is "better", but still doesn't satisfy me coz it also suffers the fundamental problem of all non-sidebar-webpanel browsers; you have to look at web pages in series, not parallel like with a sidebar. it really seems to be true that operapresto, vivaldi, & now floorp, have completely "spoiled" me in this regard, such that it just now feels "wrong" to not have it.
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
resurrected my old Core 2 Duo E8500
well isn't that fantastic then, that ffn & floorp have given you this gift -- yay!
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
update to 11.11, maybe extensions in the sidebar work better for you
oh yes indeed; i got both the 11.11 updates two days back; 11.11.0 in the morning, & 11.11.1 in the evening. 11.11.1 did indeed solve several of the problems i posted about before, but sadly there's now another problem, which is a bit disappointing. to save time here, i don't need to bother describing it, coz by pure random chance i happened to discover that some crazy woman seems to have already noticed it, & posted a bug report [though, tbh, i suspect she's just crazy as a coconut & highly discredited]: https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/issues/1024
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@ybjrepnfr woohoo, the Dev has now fixed it! hopefully the next update will come soonish.
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@ybjrepnfr said in Arching Floorpians:
@npro Hello you old thing! It seems that both of us are hanging around here rather less frequently than historically [which for you = many years, but for me ofc being so new here, is only a few weeks...].
i happened to discover that some crazy woman seems to have already noticed it, & posted a bug report [though, tbh, i suspect she's just crazy as a coconut & highly discredited]: https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/issues/1024
blimey that crazy woman was a resident here, nice to see her rocking! Unfortunately you missed all the fun having joined Vrivladi so late. There was another resident woman here with an exceptional taste for hats, she is gone too. Something is weird in this place, maybe the fumes of a volcano.
I must say that bugreport was exceptionally well written with lots of details and attention (typical of her), such that I didn't bother reading it .
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Awesome thing, KDE's new and promising Marknote app can read Vrovladi's exported Notes (.md format) out of the box!
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@npro vivaldi, what's that?
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@ybjrepnfr Sry Vrovladi I mean, I'm going to edit it right now.
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@npro @ybjrepnfr btw it was an old software I was using, was kinda decent because it had some "notes" feature integrated, after I had those exported though they couldn't be imported to Floorp which sucked. Well not anymore! Now I can enjoy them in Marknote and continue keeping notes there \o/
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@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
it was an old software I was using
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
Well not anymore
@npro said in Arching Floorpians:
Floorp
Confession... embarrassing given i recently wrote this, but... within days of that post, i changed my mind, & returned to FFN
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So we need yet another thread I see...
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@ybjrepnfr "I'm cheating Floorp with Firefox Nightly" sounds appropriate...