'Apple-WebKit' for the Vivaldi iOS browser, or 'Chromium' based?
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May I ask if Vivaldi had to use 'Apple-WebKit' as a base to be allowed to build the Vivaldi browser for iOS Apple?
Like all other browsers Firefox, Edge, Opera, Brave, DuckDuckGo etc. had to do it in iOS/Tablet.
Or did Vivaldi true manage to get their 'Chromium' based browser on Apple iOS and Tablet?
Factual Apple has made the use of its proprietary 'Apple-WebKit' a very strict requirement.
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I remember reading that it was WebKit. There are rumours that the EU are going to force Apple to stop restricting browsers to WebKit, but as of today Apple still won't allow any non WebKit browser.
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@RiveDroite
Thank you for your message.Some time ago I wrote on social.vivaldi.net:
"I really hope you don't make a 'Vivaldi fake' for Apple's iOS.
Otherwise you will do like Firefox did by using 'Apple's WebKit'.
After Apple's 'generous' donation to 'Mozilla' when they were very financially strapped.
(But even this would never have happened in Steven Jobs' time, he never, ever donated a dime.
)For me, Firefox with Apple's WebKit is a Safari with Firefox stickers, cosmetic.
How 'Apples-WebKit' really works, Apple won't tell you either.
You would be building on something you don't know what it really does.
Still, all browsers in the iOS Apple empire must use 'Apples-WebKit'.
Or are you trying to convince Apple to finally give up this monopoly?
I can hardly imagine it, the EU hasn't managed it either (yet?).
Although they have relaxed it for macOS.
But they see the bigger future in iOS and tablets.For me, Apple is and remains a huge data octopus, just like the others, and is no better.
Please don't let them buy you too.
The price would be too high.Then I'd rather not have Vivaldi for Apple's iOS and tablets (yet?), I think."
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@ingolftopf I agree with most of your points. Problem is that Apple doesnt easily change their restrictions.
Vivaldi had the choice of ignoring iOS until such restrictions were lifted or to use WebKit and reach a large share of the market. (This is just my take on it)
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For me, Vivaldi did not get involved in this Apple game, successfully, for a long time.
For me, it was never just the reason of a small Vivaldi team, but conviction.
Has this changed now that Vivaldi really uses 'Apple WebKit'?
Or does the iOS Vivaldi browser have a 'Chromium' base after all and Vivaldi wants to get Apple, like the EU, to give up its monopoly on this, as Apple has done on macOS?
The Vivaldi iOS browser is not yet in the App Store, everything is still in a very small test frame.
Perhaps Vivaldi will also try to convince Apple with a 'Chromium' iOS browser.
The pressure on Apple has already become quite great.
Also just so Apple has allowed reluctant very few open source apps.
Even if they still change them anyway.The real Open Source apps are only available in the 'F-Droid' App Store, which is deliberately excluded by Apple for Apple users.
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Google is not really better than Apple, but it allows the 'F-Droid' app store.
Also, with the Google 'Pixel' devices, there is the possibility to really get rid of Google completely, as paradoxical as it sounds.
'GrapheneOS' makes it possible. -
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