Flatpak support
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@LocutusOfBorg pretty big issue for me due to me using the steam deck and the OS is Immutable.
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@viesta2015 said in Flatpak support:
@LocutusOfBorg pretty big issue for me due to me using the steam deck and the OS is Immutable.
As I CLEARLY said for most of us, you are not most of us.
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Flatpak is being very practical to use, at least from reading some articles etc, flatpak and seems snap packages seem to be solutions for devs also, where they reduce the number of package systems, eliminate dependencies (hell) etc to deal with.
I personally use Fedora, but the number of immutable filesystem distributions are increasing and they utilise those packaging systems.
Also not having to add another repository for RPM or DEB and have "just one" like on Flatpak where things update flawlessly and updating your distro won't break other software is a very good thing. -
I've recently took a quick look at Fedora Silverblue, sadly it's not easy to get Vivaldi installed on in because there are is no official Flathub/flatpak version of Vivaldi. This has stopped others switching from Fedora to Fedora Silverblue.
This would be nice to see so I can continue looking into Fedora Silverblue.
Update: With the Vivaldi browser now available on Flathub, this should be easy to install now with a couple of clicks to the Software Store.
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Flatpak is planned.
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@DoctorG said in Is there any plans to create a flatpak, snap or even appimage?:
Flatpak is planned.
So happy to hear that flatpak is planned. This will definitely open the door to more users.
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Every self-respecting browser should have flatpak. The community is waiting
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@MrKorbs Well currently I'm using Silverblue with Vivaldi, the problem is that it's not recommended use rpm files to install as a layer.
I'm doing that but if we had a flatpak version I preferred to use it as a flatpak. -
+1 for a Flatpack or easy way to auto update my fave browser
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Steam Deck usersigned in to support getting my favorite browser from my macbook on all my other devices!
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@Khlydo WIR. We give no timeline.
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Just to share my perspective,
I will start using Vivaldi full-time both for personal and professional workload on my workstation if Vivaldi is officially packaged as a Flatpak too.
This is the only setback there is for me.
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thinking about this issue as i scrolled down the last couple of dozen posts to get a feel for the thread, and knowing that over recent months i've been getting more interested in immutable distros like fedora silverblue/kinoite [gnome/kde, respectively] and opensuse microos [gnome,kde, others available], i wondered why people here who express impatience for a flatpak vivaldi for their own immutables, don't just do this.
create a container, eg, distrobox or podman, of whatever distro takes your fancy, in your installed immutable. install vivaldi in your container, using that distro's native pkg [eg, deb or rpm; downloadable ofc from the vivaldi site]. then once installed in the container, export the launcher to make it conveniently accessible thru your immutable's standard apps menu.
i've not yet spent time to test this, but afaik, this seems viable. anyone?
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@ybjrepnfr Flatpak is one thing but flat out NO to Distrobox or Podman.
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@ybjrepnfr
that'll work, but is a hassle to do. Plus it's easy to simply forget to update the browser that way (potentially dangerous for a browser). Especially since a lot of those distros have a GUI way to update. Silverblue/kionite even does it automatically without bothering the user.Flatpaks on the other hand are much nicer to deal with, allowing most users to get and update apps graphically. Of course I understand that actually creating the flatpak may be difficult.
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@MrScientific to be clear, my suggestion was only offered as a temporary workaround, for users of immutables, until such time as an official vivaldi flatpak becomes available.
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@ybjrepnfr Using Distrobox just for Vivaldi means you'll pretty much have to maintain an entire separate distro just for one app. I mean if you already use Distrobox a lot for other stuff, then sure, it's a decent solution, but otherwise it's very inconvenient.
The temporary solution I found for myself is simply download Vivaldi rpm, open it with an archive manager, extract the Vivaldi folder from opt folder found inside the rpm and create a custom .desktop file that points to /your/directory/vivaldi/vivaldi .
Then, when Vivaldi has updates, I simply download the newer rpm, extract and replace the Vivaldi folder with the newer one.
This sounds like a lot of effort, but updating it like this takes exactly a minute, including the download (if you have a fast internet). And it's still way less effort than maintaining a Distrobox just for one app. -
Made an account to back up the idea for a Vivaldi Flatpack....I use it on all my other systems and I sorely miss it when I use my Steamdeck.
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@MrScientific said in Flatpak support:
Especially since a lot of those distros have a GUI way to update. Silverblue/kionite even does it automatically without bothering the user.
Then that's the fault of the enduser if they doing keep on top of something so important. ANY OS that automatically updates should be adjusted so one has to update manually or avoid if it can't be adjusted.
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@LocutusOfBorg
Sure I agree that the user has sone responsibility towards updating their own system, but it does make things easier if the user doesn't have to worry about that. Currently I do have a distrobox set up for vivaldi but a flatpack would honestly make my life easier (even if only a bit).
