About that browser comparison by Vivaldi...

WildEnte

@luetage said in About that browser comparison by Vivaldi...:

What did you expect? It’s marketing blah blah meant for potential users who have never touched Vivaldi.

Having some marketing experience myself, I feel comfortable saying that if it's blah blah, then it's not want you want as a company.

treego

@AltCode said in About that browser comparison by Vivaldi...:

For those not on the know yet, the Vivaldi Team recently published this page comparing itself to Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Edge, Opera, and Brave: https://vivaldi.com/compare

I don't see Brave in the comparison list at all ... for privacy (had they included Brave), Vivaldi would lose to Brave, I would say: https://privacytests.org/

mib2berlin

@treego
Hi, they should had add Brave to the list but the privacytets.org page is published by the Brave team.
There was a big discussion thread about but I am to lazy and not interested much to search for it.

Cheers, mib

AltCode

@treego Brave used to be in the comparison page, but some time after I created this thread, it seems like it was removed.

quicksand4627

@AltCode That's what I'm thinking right now... Vivaldi Team has some malicious intentions

luetage

@quicksand4627 Yes, clearly. You make a lot of sense. I applaud your sharp wit.

Oh wait. Maybe they chose to compare themselves with the 5 most used browsers in the market, which Brave is not a part of. This would mean there were no mailicious intentions… hmm. But how could that be? Vivaldi is clearly evil and tries to manipulate us. I can’t make up my mind : /

barbudo2005

@Tsvetkov1964

Said:

the online translator in Vivaldi. Although he is, however, he is the worst of all.

Is it valid to evaluate a browser by its translator? (competing with GG and MS)?

barbudo2005

@Tsvetkov1964

Said:

the online translator in Vivaldi. Although he is, however, he is the worst of all.

Is it valid to evaluate a browser by its translator? (competing with GG and MS)?

Zalex108

We may need to ask to Lingvanex about fix and upgrade the experience.

Translation despite speed | Many times won't work
Kept Usual/Selected languages on Top | You need to scroll constantly to choose between
Change target | Instead of give a disappearing error

That's what I've seen,
3rd mostly on mobile

Pesala

@barbudo2005 said in About that browser comparison by Vivaldi...:

Is it valid to evaluate a browser by its translator?

Yes, of course it is if it is listed as one of the features that it includes.

Comparison charts made by any vendor are sure to be biased; it is better to look at comparisons made by independent reviewers, if you can find one that is truly independent. Follow the money trail.

Maybe a channel like Techgumbo ?

barbudo2005

@Pesala

Said:

Yes, of course it is if it is listed as one of the features that it includes.

I don't agree with you.

Lingvanex is free. How much would Vivaldi have to pay to use the translator of large corporations as GG or MS or one of similar quality?

The underlying problem is that people have been told that a browser should be all-inclusive.

barbudo2005

@Zalex108

The problem is simple, if someone is not happy with Lingvanex then install this extension:

Google Translate:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/google-translate/aapbdbdomjkkjkaonfhkkikfgjllcleb?hl=en

or this:

DeepL Translate
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/deepl-translate-reading-w/cofdbpoegempjloogbagkncekinflcnj

Zalex108

@barbudo2005

I have them too.

Just to remind Lingvanex that being built in a soft, should at least work and have the minimum settings.

Pesala

@barbudo2005 Why on earth should reviews not compare the translation tools?

The problem is that the comparison in the table is biased, because it cherry-picks privacy as being more important than accuracy or wide-ranging language support. It shows Vivaldi as the only one with full support for a Private full-page translate tool.

An impartial comparison would point out that other browsers also have a translation tool, which is superior to Lingvanex, but perhaps not so good for privacy.

barbudo2005

@Pesala

So the conclusion is that you can't have the best of two worlds: Privacy and Quality, so you have to choose.

luetage

@Tsvetkov1964 There’s no reason why you couldn’t choose both. Lingvanex is perfectly able to bring the gist of a text passage across, if you need higher accuracy the most popular choice is DeepL at the moment, which you can add as a search engine and then create a command chain out of it. This automates opening the current selection in the translator.

barbudo2005

@Tsvetkov1964

Said:

I use the best online translator - TWP - Translate Web Pages

In what is better than Google Translate if?

"The pages are translated using the Google or Yandex translation engine (you choose).

And how's my privacy?

Privacy policy: We do not collect any information. However, to translate, the contents of the web pages will be sent to Google or Yandex servers."