Blank page shown on some web sites
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Happened to me quite often on sites like wikipedia, serverfault or stackoverflow. Disabling blockers does not do anything. Turning off hardware acceleration on the other hand fixed it so far thanks for the advice. Also opening the page in host mode works.
I am always at latest drivers but the problem persists both trought GPU driver and browser updates so it could be antivirus problem as mentioned above but what do you suggest @mib2berlin? Excluding internet browser from antivirus software doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
Intel Core i7-8700K
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@3WaD
This is true but you can disable AV software for a test.
There is maybe a kind of whitelist you can add Vivaldi, sometimes a simple reinstall help. It does not touch your user data except you want to. During removing Vivaldi it ask if you want to keep the user data.
But I guess it is a GPU/driver/Vivaldi issue as it work with HW acceleration disabled.
Do you use Last Past extension, too?Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin
No am actually not using any extensions. And it happens only on certain sites it's not random. Both the author and I mentioned wikipedia, which is quite a simple site without any animations and stuff tbh. -
@3WaD
Hm, this is really strange, I can open Wiki and DeepL pages on two completely different systems, specs in my signature.
Please enable a flag with enabled HW acceleration:vivaldi://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist
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@mib2berlin
Thank you. I'll test it. I personally have to wait a bit if that flag helps because while it seems that for the author the problem is consistent and reproducable every time, for me its consistent only in the domains. Not in chance of occurance. Sometimes it just happens when I google for code stuff, I visit some awnser on serverfault and boom. Broken. I usually just open it in different browser since at that moment I need to troubleshoot my code not the browser
and I forget about it and then next day the same link can render just fine so I don't really know what causes this. I'll let you all know. -
Right after the last post I tried to visit the wiki and it happened again so I decided to record the behaviour and add some more info. Here's how my Vivaldi renders it:
As you see the html and everything is there and able to interact it's just glitchy and not visible.
Refresh or no-cache refresh does not work
Opening the same link in a host mode window loads it fine but does not repair the page in the main window
Restarting Vivaldi completely repairs it and the page renders fine
I didn't notice this behavior in older versions of Vivaldi. Although I'm not sure how many patches before the current one. -
Just so there's another voice... I got this exact problem too and it's been some patches since but problem is still there. More than wikis, it also affects forums like unity forum for me. I'd say a good 90% of the time, and there was that time where going back in history and forth to refresh it (which almost always work) or closing/reopen it didn't work at all. Is this blink related maybe?
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@3WaD Thanks. This is the one that completely matches my experience.
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@Himeji
Hi, do I need an account to test Unity forum?
Reading different threads does not show blank pages.@all, please try this in a new clean profile, the developer always use clean profiles for testing.
You cant test in a used profile with 20 extensions nobody knows how they influence Vivaldi.https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/user-profiles/
Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin
I've cleaned my browser's navigation data including cookies and all so I made sure I wasn't logged in.
It happens nearly every time on both answers .unity and forum .unity
I've recently build up a new PC for a friend and recommended Vivaldi, but got the exact same bug as me happening on some wowhead .com pages.
Whenever I'll got some time ahead I'll try making a new profile but my friend's recent experience doesn't hint me this way as it was pristine. -
@Himeji
Hi, Vivaldi really need some work from the user sometimes, for a non techsavy user I would choose Edge or you will get a phone call every here and there.
I still cant reproduce, I will check on my other system if I find some time and report back here.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin What do you mean it needs some work from the techsavy users? For x years it's been a stable browser for regular users, not some guy's hobby project. And until this problem appeared a while ago, it just worked out of the box and I recommended it to everyone. Even to the "least techsavy people".
I appreciate that you want to contribute to this thread and you had some good insights for testing but this last one is quite off sorry. Good for you that you can't reproduce it but as you see many users can, and telling them to switch to Edge is something that official Vivaldi support would probably not recommend
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@3WaD
I help users here since the first beta of Vivaldi and wrote the same things hundreds of times.
Adding Vivaldi as default browser to some of my customers and friends result in a lot of work over the last years for me.
If this work fine for you all good but I don´t recommend Vivaldi to user not even know what a browser or the Windows Explorer is, anymore.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin I greatly appreciate your long service of discouraging people from this browser
But as a "techsavy enough" user I really like its functions, so I'll wait to see if the support notice this problem more or if those of us who have this problem somehow manage to solve it. Thanks. -
Problem Update
Hello all. Unfortunately, even after a lot of hours of debugging, I wasn't able to find a definitive fix or bug's reason in the current release. Although I was able to narrow it down a little and reproduce much more consistently. I found out It has something to do with using Google search, Vivaldi local user saved data, and perhaps google services of any kind opened in other tabs. I am attaching a list of observations at the end of this post.
For those who mainly want a working browser again here are some current possible solutions. If you want to use the latest release you can either:
- Turn off Vivaldi hardware acceleration (this will use CPU instead of GPU for things like video decode, drawing, some animations and WebGL 3D)
- Don't use Google search engine
If you don't necessarily need the latest version you can download older release.
- Before installing disconnect your internet, then open the installed browser and disable automatic updates in the General settings tab otherwise it will download the latest release instantly and will apply it next launch
I am currently testing version 5.3 and so far this problem or window border/shadow bug is not present. This also means that recent Vivaldi releases should not be considered "stable" and that this is not caused by external influences.
Thank you all for contributing and let's hope Vivaldi will return to the right tracks next year.
List of debug observations:
- Accessing specific domains via Google search makes the page not render, going back to the search in history and then back to the page usually repairs it.
- Restarting Vivaldi makes the page work at the first load but the problem comes back with the next visit via google search
- When you visit a google search link and the page is broken, accessing the same page directly via the http address afterwards makes it broken too.
- Visiting the same link in a different search engine works fine and repairs the http access BUT:
- Keeping the broken page opened and using a different search engine for the same link in a new tab or window makes it broken on that engine too
- Visiting the same search link in incognito mode, guest mode or with a fresh Vivaldi user works fine even through Google and even with broken pages in the original window
- Accessing the link from Google search via the "translate this page" button works fine
- Turning off the hardware acceleration in Vivaldi makes it work fine
- Closing all other tabs makes it work fine (mainly the Google services themselves or sites with embedded Google content like youtube iframes) Although I wasn't able to specifically find which combination of tabs can always reproduce this
Another older thread about this bug: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/78995/pages-are-blank
List of domains this bug can appear on:
https://hub.docker.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
https://stackoverflow.com/
https://serverfault.com
https://github.com
Once I was even able to break localhost with Nginx's basic 404 page lol. Makes no sence as you don't access that via Google -
Vivaldi: 5.6.2867.46 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision: 3a406e4326cd62dfa6a66df62d801abd795643df
OS: Windows 11 Version 21H2 (Build 22000.1335)
JavaScript: V8 10.8.168.22Lately (since the last two updates) I've had a lot of issues with "blank" pages. Most often it comes from searching something in Google and then clicking a link from the search result.
It seems some websites are mor affected by others, for example medium.com and Stackoverflow.com, e.g. this was blank when I just opened it: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/71989063/upgrading-from-aws-aurora-serverless-v1-to-v2-fails/71989216#71989216
It's like it's trying to load but never gets there... If I open another tab and go to any other page it loads fine.
Opening the pages in Private window always works directly.
I've tried to clear cookies and even restored from scratch but it persists...
I normally run with two open Vivaldi windows and 100-150 tabs in total open but that has never been an issue before, it started quite recently (maybe 5-6 weeks back)
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@awasen Please check Troubleshooting issues.
My browser does not show such issues.
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Should've mentioned I tried all that, and as stated it works fine if I open a Private Window (with the same extensions as I have in the "normal" window).
Hardware acceleration is turned off since before (as it messes with X-window on WSL2).
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@Ayespy I have this irritating problem too.
First of all, it is not related to extensions, because I have no extension installed.
Next, it is not related to any specific site.I have seen it several times on stackoverflow too. It is not site related at all.
Finally, the problem started on 2 computer both after updating Vivaldi to the latest version. I'm almost sure something has changed in Vivaldi that causes this problem.When we encounter this problem, refreshing page does not solve the problem. But if close all of white and buggy tabs first and then try opening page, it will open correctly.
I don't know if it is related to the number of open tabs, because I have a lot of open tabs all the time.
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@3WaD, found this thread thanks to your great work on debugging and describing the issue.
I've also seen this rendering glitch occasionally during the last couple of months or so. I can confirm all your debug observations. Indeed, returning back to Google Search results and clicking again fixes the issue, unlike reloading or opening a new tab. Disabling HW acceleration does fix the issue, restarting the browser does only fix the first page load.
Strangely my environment is quite different, so this should not be due to specific GPU driver:
Vivaldi 5.6.2867.50
Windows 11 22H2
AMD Ryzen 9 4900H
AMD Radeon Integrated (used by HW acceleration)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (not used AFAICT)I have quite a few addons, but disabling any or all of the does not fix the page rendering.
I am noticing this on wikipedia.org and amazon.de.
