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    • AntraX666
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      AntraX666
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      I also have Intel. Luckily for me Vivaldi never took down MacOS, just it self.

      I dont close the Vivaldi when Browser process is huge, because that will freeze my system when its managing the huge RAM consumption from swap to properly shut down. When it crash, its instantly empty and I can ran new instance way faster, just annoyingly it crash always when you dont need it...

      Regarding the high temperature, my Air goes crazy too when I try to close Vivaldi properly and Browser process is over 10GB, but CPU is going crazy always when there is high memory pressure and there is reallocation of memory.

      If I ever have chance to play with Mac with M1, will test Vivaldi there if this bug is present also on M1 or just on Intel CPUs.

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        OakdaleFTL @AntraX666
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        @antrax666 Tomorrow I'm going to put a new fan into my machine... Fingers crossed!
        But memory usage shouldn't spike like that: Something somewhere is allocating RAM for no good reason; and the app isn't monitoring it...and obviously not releasing it when it should!
        Classic C-type language memory glitch: Probably a simple array pointer gone "rogue"! πŸ™‚

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          DarkDmake
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          Hi all, it is very noticeable when I edit anything in confluence, even the input of characters slows down, while htop shows that the Vivaldi Framework uses 70% of the cpu.

          MacBook Air M1, macOS Monterey 12.3.1
          Vivaldi: 5.2.2623.41 (Stable channel) (arm64)

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            AntraX666 @OakdaleFTL
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            @oakdaleftl Good luck with fan replacement, shouldn't be hard to swap.

            I am not sure but Browser process I think is responsible for all data handling and it just doesn't throw old data away and keeps them allocated. In activity monitor real memory usage is normal but memory usage is this crazy thing (if I understand it right, memory usage is allocated memory space, which seems to be limited to 64GB, and real memory usage is what is actually used?).

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              RuninGag @AntraX666
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              @AntraX666 Memory usage (under the Chrome model) is bizarre β€” but the spikes to >12 GB are obvious signs that something is wrong...
              I always run (at least) two profiles, and the synced profile's main window routinely sneaks up to over 200 tabs; which has never been a problem, before. (You should see the Window menu try to populate its favicons! πŸ™‚ ) This is something new with 5.2...

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                AntraX666 @RuninGag
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                @RuninGag I know how Chromium browsers behave, they are RAM needy, I would be fine with that, because you can always kill process which eats too much of RAM except the Browser process πŸ˜ƒ

                The memory leak I first notice on Vivaldi 3.8, it was same till 5.something then Browser process started to crash reaching 15GB of RAM. So thats at least some change (to worse but change). Unfortunately Vivaldi on Mac seems pretty minor and I dont have Linux to test it there, my hope is it will get randomly fixed as it was randomly broken πŸ˜ƒ

                By fav icons you mean icons for tabs? With that I dont have problem even 300+ tabs, what I share across platforms with 200+ tabs is that any audio freeze Vivaldi for moment, but I experience that from 3.5 so when I need audio or video with audio I know I have to keep tabs under 150.

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                  Chas4
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                  I do know some sites cause browsers to eat more RAM, check with the Vivaldi task manager and see if you can track down which ones trigger the spike.


                  Why Open the Web?

                  Despite the connecting purpose of the Web, it is not entirely open to all of its users.
                  When used correctly, HTML documents can be displayed across platforms and devices.
                  However, many devices are excluded access to Web content.

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                    AntraX666 @Chas4
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                    @Chas4 Tried that done that. If site consume more RAM you can see it in manager which site eats how much of RAM, but when Browser process grows, you have no clue why. Fastest way to make Browser process grow is browsing "infinite" scrolling sites (9gag is good for that) and leave some sites which dynamically redraw graphs. With this combination I can kill Browser task in less than 24 hours.

                    All you can change is the pace of growing of the Browser process, but it grows all the time Vivaldi is open.

                    And yes closing all tabs and task wont make Browser process any smaller.

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                      OakdaleFTL @AntraX666
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                      @AntraX666 said in [VB-80821] Memory leak on latest Vivaldi:

                      Vivaldi on Mac seems pretty minor

                      What I've routinely noticed is that < 4 GB is well-behaved. Past 5 GB it'll head upwards of 12 GB (and beyond, if you let it...?). And it shows in terms of performance.
                      I've managed to overcome my reticence: When I note a blip in the trajectory, I quit Vivaldi and re-launch; it works and it's quite painless!

                      I've not found any rhyme or reason for the blip... My main window is a mere 225 tabs, so it can't be that! (?? πŸ™‚ ) Seriously, Vivaldi's browsers easily accommodate tab hoarding...

                      Is it a bug? Certainly. Is it a real problem -for me? No. Not really. But it would be nice to swat this one!

                      β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”β€”
                      A more serious "happening" is the hang-on-right-click gremlin... Muscle memory makes it annoying! πŸ™‚

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                        AntraX666
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                        Necroposting yay!

                        Okay, latest Vivaldi and so far all same, memory leak still present and crashing when Browser process hoards over 16GB of memory space. I can crash Vivaldi in 4 hours if I will open and close many tabs. Kinda miss the times when it just grew up to 60GB and ran out of memory space and system told me, hey close something or bad things will happen.

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                          blackdagor28 @AntraX666
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                          @AntraX666 I stopped using Vivaldi and had to use a browser with features and stability for my work, but I always come back to this post to see if there's any solution to this problem, it's been almost 3 years and there's no solution haha, but I think everyone here thinks that this is "Mostly Solved", well, nevertheless, I always keep the hope that this will get solved someday, cheers! πŸ–€

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                            I still use it, but its getting worse, crashes are faster now, but my Mac is no longer supported (It rans just Big Sur, i7 5th gen) so its question of time when it will be unsupported by chromium like Win7 and I dont expect the memory leak be fixed anymore. Seems that Vivaldi is barely used on MacOS and I dont plan buying new Mac. Wonder how is fairing Vivaldi on Linux, that will be my future way.

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                              Wow, after years the memory leak seems to be gone! After day of browsing no crash and browser process is just 1.3GB

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                                blackdagor28 @AntraX666
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                                @AntraX666 I came back just to confirm the same thing haha, I saw what you wrote and I instantly downloaded Vivaldi again just to check how it goes, and it's FINALLY fixed πŸ‘

                                Nevertheless, I'm already using another browser, maybe if Vivaldi improves their syncing service, I would consider coming back permanently and have two profiles just like I'm doing it in this other browser.

                                but I'm happy that this bug it's finally solved 😁

                                Edit: Oh, and I almost forgot it, they need to improve their native password manager, when you try to log into a specific website, Vivaldi automatically fills your credentials without any Security, so, if your device is stolen, say goodbye to your accounts haha, for now if you want to use Vivaldi and you care about this, you need to use an independent password manager, e.g Bitwarden.

                                Have a good one! πŸ–€

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