Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers
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@bariton , the underlying problem are not the ads, but the personalized ads, because this involves the collection of personal data and tracking our activities, to sell it to advertisers. This, apart from an invasion of our privacy, is synonymous with a security risk online, since there is no way to verify how these companies treat and protect this data. The multiple cases of leaks of sensitive data in the past, including bank and medical data, show it.
Besides, in the case of search engines, the addition of causing the effect of the bubble filter and the interested manipulations of the information.
These surveillance advertising practices are criminal and directly violate the basic rights of users. No private company has the right to spy on us and the authorities only if there is a court order in this regard in specific cases.
Google certainly has excellent services, but this hardly gives it the right to spy into our private lives, even going as far as reading our mail, if we use Gmail. There are other ways to make money for these companies that do not put our privacy and security at risk.
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@Catweazle Yes its right what you say. Is the expression "digital prisoner" invented already? : -)
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@bariton , digital prisoner if the user does not know the implications of using certain "so good" products, I prefer to do what is necessary to give these companies the door in the nose, if I can not avoid them.
(Vivaldi blocker, JShelter and Site Bleacher extensions, DNS crypt in the OS)
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Thank you, I will take a look.
The only extension of defense here is Cookie AutoDelete, seems like Site Bleacher. -
@bariton , Site Bleacher is better, it deletes not only cookies, also cache, serviceworkers and all other crap of no whitelisted sites.
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Cookie AutoDelete does that, too.
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@bariton , well, it's similar, there are also other, like Forget Me Now, which delete the most, but the Fingerprint Beacons are covered by the JSshelter I use.
I found this comparativeCookie AutoDelete
- cache
- cookies
- indexedDB
- localStorage
- plugin data
- service workers
Forget Me Now
- cache
- cookies
- indexedDB
- localStorage
- plugin data
- service workers
- downloads
- form data
- history
- passwords
Site Bleacher
- cache
- cookies
- indexedDB
- localStorage
- plugin data
- service workers
- file systems
- webSQL
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Thank you, I will read in their forums/issue trackers to see what's going on there.
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
the underlying problem are not the ads, but the personalized ads, because this involves the collection of personal data and tracking our activities, to sell it to advertisers.
Personalized or not they both can be major issues. If advertisers had their way you would get a tenth of you screen for browsing the content and the rest would be all ads. Hence why a lot of us don't allow ads at all. I have seen what a lot of sites look like with no ad blocker and it looks like Vegas when they had all the neon signs.
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
@bariton , Site Bleacher is better, it deletes not only cookies, also cache, serviceworkers and all other crap of no whitelisted sites.
Cookie Autodelete, Clear Cache, Close All & Clean.
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@LocutusOfBorg said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
the underlying problem are not the ads, but the personalized ads, because this involves the collection of personal data and tracking our activities, to sell it to advertisers.
Personalized or not they both can be major issues. If advertisers had their way you would get a tenth of you screen for browsing the content and the rest would be all ads. Hence why a lot of us don't allow ads at all. I have seen what a lot of sites look like with no ad blocker and it looks like Vegas when they had all the neon signs.
I have a big problem with how the advertising ecosystem operates, and the lengths that companies will go to to harvest personal data, build profiles about our browsing habits and track our movements across the Internet.
Stuff like this bothers me as well: https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/09/22/forbes-website-served-malware/
However, ads also fund the free content that we enjoy. It's unfortunate that the business model of the Internet is so hopelessly broken, and that we are still struggling with trying to find workable solutions that can reward content creators and still respect consumers.
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@LocutusOfBorg , I agree that the ads on the pages can be quite annoying and deserve to be blocked. But these, although they can be annoying, as a general rule they have no further consequences, okay, if they are animations they take away bandwidth and costs if you browse with a data plan.
But if they are based on your history and activities on the network, that is, your data that was recorded and sold to these advertisers, this, apart from an intrusion on your right to privacy, can have dangerous consequences, depending on whose hands this data ends up.They are filling us with advertisements daily, on TV, in the streets, brochures in mailboxes, spam in the mail to an absurd degree and nobody pays attention to them anymore, therefore their use in itself is quite absurd.
But more on the internet, because there they steal our resources. But worse is the surveillance, since on the internet the lack of privacy is directly synonymous with the lack of security.>Laptop Lenovo V145 15AST, AMD A9- 9425 Radeon R5 - 5 cores 3,1 GHz RAM 8GB, GPU 2+1 GB SSD 256GB -Win10 64 v22H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Catweazle said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
But more on the internet, because there they steal our resources. But worse is the surveillance, since on the internet the lack of privacy is directly synonymous with the lack of security.
More over the lack of freedom. Loose your privacy loose your freedom. As for ads that collect data we are all aware of how bad that is. What I was getting at is I don't mind a few non-intrusive ads at the top, sides, and or the bottom of a page to help support a site. I just don't like turning off all extensions and going to a site just to see how bad it's gotten and seeing so much ad bling that it's almost impossible to concentrate on the actually site content.
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Bonjour, comment ajouter VIVALDI comme moteur de recherche dans à Google chrome.
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@dantheking12 Sorry, but English only in this forum.
For French language use the local forum
Hello, how to add VIVALDI as a search engine in Google chrome.
Thanks.Vivaldi is a browser NOT a search engine!!
Vivaldi est un navigateur PAS un moteur de recherche !!
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@dantheking12 said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:
Bonjour, comment ajouter VIVALDI comme moteur de recherche dans à Google chrome.
Merci.Include the English translation.
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"Google once again stalls Chrome content-blocker shakeup":
https://www.theregister.com/2022/12/12/google_v3_chrome_extension/
https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/mv3/mv2-sunset/
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@barbudo2005 , we'll see what happens until 2024. Although it's not just Chrome either, Mozilla and Safari will also go to MV3
In the same page
https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/17/mozilla_next_week_will_begin/>Laptop Lenovo V145 15AST, AMD A9- 9425 Radeon R5 - 5 cores 3,1 GHz RAM 8GB, GPU 2+1 GB SSD 256GB -Win10 64 v22H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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Quote: "One of the most controversial changes of Chrome’s MV3 approach is the removal of blocking WebRequest, which provides a level of power and flexibility that is critical to enabling advanced privacy and content blocking features. Unfortunately, that power has also been used to harm users in a variety of ways. Chrome’s solution in MV3 was to define a more narrowly scoped API (declarativeNetRequest) as a replacement. However, this will limit the capabilities of certain types of privacy extensions without adequate replacement.
Mozilla will maintain support for blocking WebRequest in MV3. To maximize compatibility with other browsers, we will also ship support for declarativeNetRequest. We will continue to work with content blockers and other key consumers of this API to identify current and future alternatives where appropriate. Content blocking is one of the most important use cases for extensions, and we are committed to ensuring that Firefox users have access to the best privacy tools available."
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2022/05/18/manifest-v3-in-firefox-recap-next-steps/
